Pilgrims of Sabbocracy:
A Black Sabbath Mailing List - Issue #1246
Friday February 23, 2007
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This Issue's Lyric:
"If there isn't light when no one sees
Then how can I know what you might believe?
A story told that can't be real
Somehow must reflect the truth we feel, yeah"
(The Sign of the Southern Cross - Mob Rules 1981)
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Today's Topics:
Technical Ecstasy Artwork
Heaven & Hell Stuff
The old Sabbath sound
iD NEVER BELIVE AGAIN
Re: Pilgrims of Sabbocracy #1245
RE: Pilgrims of Sabbocracy #1245
HEVEN AND HELL USA 2007 Can't Wait !!!!
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Date: Fri 23 Feb 2007
From: Joe Siegler <siegler@black-sabbath.com>
Subject: Technical Ecstasy Artwork
I don't know if you saw it or not, but two weeks ago I ran a piece on some
prints of the artwork for Technical Ecstasy that are available for sale. St
Paul's Art Gallery in Birmingham is selling prints of the Technical Ecstasy
artwork. These prints are signed by Tony Iommi and Storm Thorgerson. Mr
Thorgerson is well known as an album cover artist, having done such iconic
other cover art as Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon (plus over a dozen
other Floyd covers), AC/DC's Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap, a few Led
Zeppelin albums, Anthrax's Stomp 442, Bruce Dickinson's Skunkworks, Alan
Parsons.. I think you get the idea. The man is iconic in rock cover art.
The folks at St. Pauls approached me with an idea, and I thought it was
cool, so here it is. They want to offer you, the reader of this newsletter
a huge discount on purchasing a copy of the artwork. They wanted to do
this because they were eager to make sure the fans had a good opportunity
to purchase the artwork.
They are offering a œ350 discount to the first 40 people from this
newsletter who buy the artwork using the promo code TONY. After the first
40 are bought with this code, the price will revert back to the regular
price.
Here is a link you can use to go straight to the artwork on the St Paul's
Gallery Website.
http://www.stpaulsgallery.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductsID=154Here's my full story with pictures of Tony Iommi & Storm signing copies of
the prints.
http://www.black-sabbath.com/news/2007/02/technical_ecstasy_art_for_sale.htmlThe folks at St Paul's are hoping that this will enable several Sabbath
fans to be able to get one of the pieces of art. If you were thinking of
doing this anyway, hopefully this discount will help you decide.
Joe Siegler
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Date: Fri 23 Feb 2007
From: Joe Siegler <siegler@black-sabbath.com>
Subject: Heaven & Hell Stuff
Since I sent out a newsletter last Friday, several things have happened on
the Heaven & Hell front. Here's a summary of them:
1) Bravewords.com is giving away free tickets to the Quebec & Montreal
shows in March. Head on over to their website for details:
http://www.bravewords.com/news/605602) There will be a single release from the Dio Years album that will come
out on Tuesday the 13th via all digital retailers (iTunes, Napster,
etc). It will also be distributed to radio stations starting next week,
so you should hear it soon, I would imagine.
3) More confirmed tour dates released from Iommi's managment. The list of
dates will be below.
4) Great new interview with Vinny Appice about the tour and the album:
http://www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=5339OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED Heaven & Hell Tour dates:
March 11 Vancouver, BC - Pacific Coliseum
March 13 Edmonton, AB - Rexall Place
March 14 Calgary, AB - Saddledome
March 16 Regina, SK - Brandt Centre
March 18 Winnipeg, MB - MTS Centre
March 20 Sault St. Marie - Steelback Centre
March 22 Toronto, ON - Air Canada Centre
March 24 London, ON - John Labatt Centre
March 26 Montreal, PQ - Bell Centre
March 27 Quebec City, PQ - Colisee Pepsi Arena
March 28 Ottawa, ON - Civic Centre
March 30 New York City, NY - Radio City Music Hall
June 02 Zurich, Switzerland Eishalle Deutweg
June 03 Milan Italy - Gods of Metal Festival
June 07 Solvesborg, Sweden - Sweden Rock Festival
June 09 Tampere, Finland - Sauna Open Air Festival
June 10 Helsinki, Finland - Jaahalli (Icehall)
June 16 Biddinghuizen, Holland - Fields of Rock Festival
June 19 Warszawa, Poland - Torwar
June 20 Katowice, Poland - Spodek Hall
June 22 Balingen, Germany - Bang Your Head Festival
June 23 Dessel, Belgium - Graspop
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:43:21 -0800 (PST)
From: steve Twede <elephantshampoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: The old Sabbath sound
I have to disagree with statements about Dio era losing the classic Sabbath
sound. Technical Ecstasy lost the sound more than any other record did.
Heaven & Hell was "much" heavier. Bills drum sound was heavy & "OLD"
sounding.
Even Born Again was more the classic Sabbath sound then NSD, TE or even
side 2 of Sabotage. Side 1 was great though. Side 2 had too much syth, keys
& orchestration, ( intersting stuff, but hardly the brutal yer clever
riffery one gets on Paranoid ).
The classic sound really is heard on Paranoid, the 1st record, & certainly
the bass sound on Master of reality. Bass, drums & guitar in a beautiful
wall of sludge.
I agree to an extent later albums, Martin era, were a tad slicked up in the
production, but Cross Purposes had nice bass tone & some very good riffs.
Not quite the crunch & wallop of Paraniod, but certainly moreso then TE.
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From: "mj" <crane0570@mchsi.com>
Subject: iD NEVER BELIVE AGAIN
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:25:16 -0500
> Personally, I don't know why so many have criticised the mix of "Born
> Again"...it's dark, heavy and creepy - as Sabbath should be!
I really like this album too. It's dark and heavy allright, however compared
to the original mix it is a bit "muddy". I like both mixes.
Regarding the Heaven And Hell project: Let the old men play and fool around.
It is the time of reunions and I am looking forward to this. Now we're all
going to see Heaven And Hell and who knows? In two-three years it's perhaps
time to see "Headless Cross" (feat. Iommi, Martin, Nicholls, Rondinelli and
Murray). I like Black Sabbath. Every line-up has it's own sound and I really
can't compare them and tell which one is the best.
>[ Ed Note: I would be some serious money you'll never see Martin as the
> Sabbath vocalist again. ]
If that would happen Joe I would never believe anything again. Tony summed
up the last album as garbage. Of Corse it was.
[ Ed Note: Huh? ]
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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:30:10 -0800 (PST)
From: "otto kilmister vongrey \(okv\)" <ottovongrey@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pilgrims of Sabbocracy #1245
not sure if anyone cares, and this is importont to me.....i have seen ozzy,
ronnie and tony sing......no-one touches ronnie live! AND NOONE EVER WILL!
but saying that...tony martin is the balls and seeing him with sabbath in
hampton(hampton beach casino) with motorhead in the early 90's was a gift
from below. tony does every era with respect and justice. ozzy era sab is
the greatest recorded metal ever but live he is a third.
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From: "Brandon White" <triviumfan08@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Pilgrims of Sabbocracy #1245
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:58:24 -0500
i would like to agree with matt hanlon that really is the only line up you
can call sabbath there is no black sabbath 2 i would also like to know ive
heard that sabbath was releasing a new record is this true and that they
would be touring for it is this also true and before anyone can say that im
closed minded and i really sould give the other years a listen well i have
and its ok but its not the best ill stick to the firsts ozzy tony bill
geezer
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Subject: HEVEN AND HELL USA 2007 Can't Wait !!!!
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:29:48 -0800
From: "Greg" <Gregh@eecpet.com>
YES, THERE IS A GOD..........
;-)
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