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Tony Iommi, Tony Martin, and Cozy Powell.



I don't know.

The more I read Bill's statements, the less I trust Him.

This is something that not everyone has noticed.

I think Black Sabbath is a family, and families should not do the laundry in public.

Why are we fans suddenly asked to be involved on a contract...

I know, but I tend to trust Him more because of that.

I'd like to hear the other half of the story. A statement from Iommi/Butler/Osbourne is needed.

I like TYR too, it's my favourite from the Tony Martin Era, closely followed by Headless Cross.

I like a lot Scream, from Tony Martin's solo career. I know it is not a Black Sabbath Album, but...

I don't think a Tony Martin Version of Dehumanizer can be better than the Version we know with Dio. It is a rarity, and I would welcome it as such, but I am not waiting for it. The Ray Gillen Version...

I agree, Tony Martin lyrics are hard to follow. I like if the lyrics tell a story, a beginning, a climax, and an end. Lyrics like "Children of the Sea" are lyrics I can understand and remember...

I am glad that Tony, Geezer & Ozzy will play. I thought they were not going to play again ever, I saw Heaven and Hell as the closing act of Tony and Geezer's careers. I did not expect this, but I am...

I don't need to lie to myself about that Festival, the only reason I would be there is Black Sabbath, and Black Sabbath shouldn't be playing there, but since Tony is sick, we should try to be...

That is not the right Festival for Black Sabbath, but... Tony is sick, I won't complaint.

I'm just curious. I'd like to know how strong is the effect of sympathy (or the lack of) over this name among Black Sabbath Fans.

Answering, Yes, No, or Maybe.

I am thinking that it is not about the money, but if it would be all about the money...

Using the fans to get more money would not speak well about Mr. Ward.

That is, IF it is all about the...

I agree partially, the Original Record sounds horrible. Is like listening to it while diving on a swimming pool.

The music was good, but the mix was horrible. And Black Sabbath should have fixed...

Have you ever rehearsed or jammed with Bill Ward on your Band?

I haven't, so I don't know if it's difficult to work with him.

If Iommi says that on his book, he must have a reason.

Mine is Ted Bundy. I find it quite satirical.

That was it, I guess that's how I came to think the guy was a rapper.

I guess I was confused because Ice T sang on "Illusion of Power".

I have read a lot of comments from other fans, and judging by that, Bill seems to be quite a nice guy, a family man.

That's great, but when we listen to the music it doesn't really matter if they...

It is interesting that Tony Martin admits having problems with his voice in the past.

"For their voice, you mean? Well, I made a terrible mistake when i was younger and just sang without thinking...

I think this is not about money, either Bill's health is the reason, or Iommi, Butler & Osbourne have professional doubts about Bill.

Even Bill said, that it is not about the money.

But I don't...

I remember Tony Iommi jamming with a lot of MTV-Bands from the day, he was exploring and trying to innovate within his style. I don't know about any other guitar legend who has tried to do anything...

I like the most the song "Born Again".

Yes, you are right. Tony Martin's Era is not as well known as the other Eras, the thread should have been named something like: "Why is Tony Martin's Era less known than the rest of BS".

After...

I want to think that his health is ok, but his heart is 14 years older now. Drumming for a Heavy Metal Band is a hard job for an old man.

I think maybe Bill is not asking for more money. Maybe he...