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    Default sabbath ripping off pantera, surly not

    anyone notice that the riff to buired alive off of dehumanizer is similar to a new level by pantera?

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    Default Re: sabbath ripping off pantera, surly not

    Tony: Geezer, we can't do that! We'll sound like Pantera!

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    Tony: Geezer, we can't do that! We'll sound like Pantera!

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    Just to clarify, that's Tony Martin. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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    Default Re: sabbath ripping off pantera, surly not

    I don't even remember where I heard that at, but I'm pretty sure it was Iommi during The Black Sabbath Story Vol II during the Dehumanizer interviews.

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    Default Re: sabbath ripping off pantera, surly not

    It was Tony Martin during the Cross Purposes sessions, I read it in an interview with Geezer Butler. That's why he left after that album, he didn't like the direction Sabbath was taking with Martin.
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    Default Re: sabbath ripping off pantera, surly not

    Q: Back in '95 Geezer commented on Tony Martin not wanting to record some of the heavier material Geezer had written for the Cross Purposes cd. According to the interview, Geezer quoted Tony as saying "We can't do that, we'll sound like Pantera". The question is what was wrong with taking Sabbath in a heavier direction? (Ken Corch)

    A: Er.. to be honest Ken, I think that was a Joke! I dont recall saying that, and Geezer said it was the most enjoyable album hed ever made. .. and I got him on video sayin it!!

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    It was Tony Martin during the Cross Purposes sessions, I read it in an interview with Geezer Butler. That's why he left after that album, he didn't like the direction Sabbath was taking with Martin.

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    Geezer was happy enough when they were touring Cross Purposes. He fell out with Tony over the Nativity In Black debacle - that's why he left!

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    Geezer was happy enough when they were touring Cross Purposes. He fell out with Tony over the Nativity In Black debacle - that's why he left!

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    Please, elaborate. I'd like to hear this story.

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    Default Re: sabbath ripping off pantera, surly not

    did Martin insist that NIB stood for Nativity In Black, or something?
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    Default Re: sabbath ripping off pantera, surly not

    Well if I had to guess, I'd say it had to do with the "Nativity in Black" tribute album, which came out around that time. There was probably some sort of dispute with writing credits or royalties or something.

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    Default Re: sabbath ripping off pantera, surly not

    Ozzy, Bill, and Geezer where on that album except for Tony, that explains why
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    Default Re: sabbath ripping off pantera, surly not

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    It was Tony Martin during the Cross Purposes sessions, I read it in an interview with Geezer Butler. That's why he left after that album, he didn't like the direction Sabbath was taking with Martin.

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    Geezer was happy enough when they were touring Cross Purposes. He fell out with Tony over the Nativity In Black debacle - that's why he left!

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    I'm just going by this interview here: http://www.black-sabbath.com/interviews/butler96.html
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    Default Re: sabbath ripping off pantera, surly not

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    It was Tony Martin during the Cross Purposes sessions, I read it in an interview with Geezer Butler. That's why he left after that album, he didn't like the direction Sabbath was taking with Martin.

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    Geezer was happy enough when they were touring Cross Purposes. He fell out with Tony over the Nativity In Black debacle - that's why he left!

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    I'm just going by this interview here: http://www.black-sabbath.com/interviews/butler96.html

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    That interview's from the time of Plastic Planet when Geezer wasn't even speaking to Tony. When they were touring Cross Purposes Geezer spoke highly about it (naturally - I presume). He fell out with Tony when he, Tony and Geezer were supposed to be doing the Bullring Brummies thing but Tony found out through a third party that Geezer and Bill were recording with two other guitarists. Tony apparently phoned Gloria about it - who was Geezer's manager at the time - and Geezer took offence. That was my understanding. I gusee what I'm saying is - Geezer might have criticised Cross Purposes later - but he certainly didn't when they were touring it.

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    Default Re: sabbath ripping off pantera, surly not

    ^^^If that's true, then it would explain a lot.

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