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    out of 10

    The Eternal Idol - 9
    Headless Cross - 7.5
    TYR - 10
    Cross Purposes - 10
    Cross Purposes Live - 9
    Forbidden - 7

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    10 to all
    "I want to tell you, yeah
    How Good It Feels
    Sleeping here with you tonight
    And that’s for real"
    -Sometimes I'm Happy 8/5/75

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    10 to all

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    Indeed, sir.
    Can't you see what I see
    You and I victims of Their word
    As the master of power
    Try to poison our world
    ----- Eternal Idol ~ 1987

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    The Eternal Idol - 9,0
    Headless Cross - 8,0
    Tyr - 9,5
    Cross Purposes - 5,0
    Forbidden - 8,5

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    The Eternal Idol - 5
    Headless Cross - 3
    Tyr - 6
    Cross Purposes - 7
    Cross Purposes Live - 7

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    Headless Cross - 100000000000000000000

    The rest = 9

    Love all of them, but the rest doesn't get 10 because, well, they are not Headless Cross.

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    Hmm, lets see. Something like.....

    Eternal Idol - 8.5
    Headless Cross - 9.5
    Tyr - 9
    Cross Purposes - 8
    Forbidden - 9.5

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    Eternal Idol - 8.5/10
    Headless Cross - 2/10
    Tyr - 12/10
    Cross Purpose - 9/10
    Forbidden - 10/10
    Vic always says 'killing is my business, and business is good'.. He can play the symphony of destruction, after all the worlds needs a hero because the system has failed. Vic is on the killing road to Hangar 18, and he will Take No Prisioners on this holy wars.

    Quote by Ray Rules

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    Eternal Idol - 8

    Headless - 9 (Bonus Track "Cloak and Dagger" - 8 - Pretty Goood)

    Tyr - 9

    Cross Purposes - 8 (Bonus Track "What's The Use" - 9.5 - excellent)

    Cross Purposes Live - 7 (Some songs sound great, others not so great)

    Forbidden - 5 (Bonus Track "Loser Gets It All" - 9, Great Track)

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    Eternal Idol - 6 (well written album, ive just never been one for it.)

    Headless Cross - 7.1

    Tyr - 7.2 (again, not one for it.

    Cross Purposes - 8 (great album)

    Cross Purposes Live - 8.1 (only 0.1 more because of the strong range across all the eras, except Born Again >:( )

    Forbidden - 4 (not THAT bad of an album, but i think it was poorly written due to the record company rushing. not to mention the featuring of a rapper just pisses me off...sorry if that doesnt sound good but yeah)

    Now, The Martin era is like my 4th favourite era, just due to the general themes of the music. I prefer Ozzy, then Dio, then Gillan, then Tony Martin. That may be kind've low, but I'm not going to be someone who's so angry at the fact that people think sabbath died after ozzy left that i consider martin the best. its just my honest opinion.
    -rar

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    Eternal Idol (9)
    Headless Cross (10. It's Only The Best Sabbath Album Ever)
    TYR (8)
    Cross Purposes (7)
    Cross Purposes Live (7)
    Forbidden (7)

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    TEI 9
    HC 5.5
    Tyr 10
    CP 9
    Forbidden 7

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    Eternal Idol 7/10
    Headless Cross 6/10
    Tyr 8/10
    Cross Purposes 10/10
    Forbidden 8/10
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    The Eternal Idol: 7.5
    Headless Cross: 9.5
    Tyr: 6.0
    Cross Purposes: 10.0
    Forbidden: 5.5

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    The Eternal Idol - 8.0
    Headless Cross - 10.0
    TYR - 9.5
    Cross Purposes - 9.0
    Forbidden - 6.5

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    AAAARGH!
    Hard to say, i'm gona TRY.
    The Eternal Idol: 9/10
    Headless Cross: 10/10
    TYR: 10/10
    Cross Purposes: 9/10
    Forbidden: 7/10
    Tomorrow it's changed.

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    The Eternal Idol - 7/10

    Headless Cross - 5/10

    TYR - 8/10

    Cross Purposes - 9/10

    Forbidden - 9/10

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    I'm only doing the ones I own as it would be pointless for me to do the others seeing as I dont have them:


    Headless Cross - 10/10
    Cross Purposes - 10/10
    Forbidden - 7/10

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    The Eternal Idol - 7/10

    Headless Cross - -1/10

    TYR - 7.5/10

    Cross Purposes - 9/10

    Forbidden - 6/10

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    Headless Cross - -1/10


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    The Eternal Idol - 7/10
    Headless Cross - 5/10
    Tyr - 6/10
    Cross Purposes - 8/10
    Forbidden - 5/10

    All in all I would sum up, that Tony is a fantastic singer, but he didn't fit Sabs. His voice is quite mellow, so it's perfect for AOR/mellow hard-rock, which he perfectly proves with his first solo effort & projects with Empire, The Cage & the rest. So are the rest singers - I like their style, but music should have been relesed under any other moniker than Sabs.

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    All in all I would sum up, that Tony is a fantastic singer, but he didn't fit Sabs. His voice is quite mellow, so it's perfect for AOR/mellow hard-rock,


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    Well, Ozzy is a mellower singer than Tony. Tony can sing his a** in *Metal* songs like Giuntini's , while Ozzy has a more "friendly rock" voice. Yes, Tony is more versatil, so he also can be AORish, but boy, the giy can ***wail***.

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    Well, that's just my humble opinion. His singing manner remind s Dio a bit, but Dio's voice is more aggressive. And Tony's voice is pretty close to Ray Gillen's one.

    And I wrote the message above to not diss Tony in any away [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I have all his full-lenghts (not only solo, but with different bands), so... And "Scream" is THE kick ass cd! Ozzy's stuff sounds heavier and more doomy, besides Ozzy's voice has a narrower scale, maybe this is case

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    Headless Cross - -1/10


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    I don't feel like writing lengthy essay here, so I'll be brief:

    Pros: Great vocals by Tony Martin.

    Cons: Everything else.

    Overall: Sort of like TEI, but minus the riffs, with the addition of laughable lyrics and cream-of-the-crap 80s production. For Sabbath, I consider this album a venture into the territory of self-parody.

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    Eternal idol - 9/10

    Headless Cross - 10/10

    Tyr - 10/10

    Cross Purposes - 8.5/10

    Cross Purposes Live - 8/10

    Forbidden - 7/10




    P.S. First Post (Yay [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]). Some People may allready know me from the deep purple hub: (I help run the Sabbath Section there)
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    P.S. First Post (Yay [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]).

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    Welcome!

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    The Eternal Idol - 8,5
    Headless Cross - 10
    TYR - 9
    Cross Purposes - 9,5
    Forbidden - 8,5

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    Headless Cross - -1/10


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    I don't feel like writing lengthy essay here, so I'll be brief:

    Pros: Great vocals by Tony Martin.

    Cons: Everything else.

    Overall: Sort of like TEI, but minus the riffs, with the addition of laughable lyrics and cream-of-the-crap 80s production. For Sabbath, I consider this album a venture into the territory of self-parody.

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    Headless Cross - -1/10


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    I don't feel like writing lengthy essay here, so I'll be brief:

    Pros: Great vocals by Tony Martin.

    Cons: Everything else.

    Overall: Sort of like TEI, but minus the riffs, with the addition of laughable lyrics and cream-of-the-crap 80s production. For Sabbath, I consider this album a venture into the territory of self-parody.

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    The Eternal Idol: 9
    Headless Cross: 9
    TYR: 10
    Cross Purposes: 8.5
    Forbidden: 8

    The blood runs free
    The rain turns red
    Give me the wine you keep the bread

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    The Eternal Idol - 8
    Headless Cross - 9
    Tyr - 9.5
    Cross Purposes - 7 (should listen to this one more)
    Forbidden - 7
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    Tony Martin-Back Where I Belong - 9.5 (the slower ones on here kill it... this has a great classic rock feel to it overall though)

    Tony Martin-Scream - 8.5 (This is the one that got me back into the TM era, and all of the other TM related albums... until this one, i only ever heard Headless Cross and Tyr for a bit back in high school)

    Empire-Trading Souls - 9 (A bit glammy and lite for some, but i like the 'radio-friendly' sound of this one)

    Empire-The Raven Ride - 9 (More balls-to-the-wall metal than the previous LP with some standout tracks like the title track, Al Sirat, and the closer)

    Giuntini Project II - 7.5

    Giuntini Project III - 8

    The Cage I - 7.5 (this is another one i should listen to more)

    The Cage II - 9 (i could listen to the first 4 songs all day)

    Misha Calvin-Strangers - 8 (a mixed bag, Kicks off good with Strangers, but gets a bit weaker from there... the 6 demos at the end are a nice touch and differ just enough from the main content to justify having them there)

    Rondinelli - Our Cross, Our Sins - 9

    Forcefield - Talisman - N/A (i haven't heard this one)

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    i'll try to rate too his solo stuff

    Tony Martin-Back Where I Belong 7.5
    some good AoR , ballads and great cover - Jerusalem

    Tony Martin-Scream 8.5

    Empire-Trading Souls 6.0
    not bad "pop-rock" music

    Empire-The Raven Ride 9.5
    O GOD! Killer!

    Giuntini Project II 10.0
    the greatest Martin's lyrics and good guitar stuff
    The album of 90s

    Giuntini Project III 8.5

    The Cage I 9.0

    The Cage II 8.5

    Misha Calvin-Evolution 7.0

    Rondinelli - Our Cross, Our Sins 7.5
    good music, bad production

    Forcefield - Talisman 8.0
    very powerfull vocals

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    Oh well, when do I begin :-)

    Tony Martin-Back Where I Belong 8.0 Hated by some people, loved by others. This is what Journey should have sound if Martin had join them when he was approached. Highlight: "Back wher I belong", "Sweet Elise"

    Tony Martin-Scream 8.5 I think the production here is not so good. The sound could have been cleare overall, but there are great songs here. Highlight: Bitter sweet, Scream

    Empire-Trading Souls 9.5 Love it, love it, love it! very souldful album, Martin shows us some great falsettos here and there. Great ballads and AOR music. Love it! Highlight: You, "Did you ever love me"

    Empire-The Raven Ride 9.5 Different to Trading Souls, but excellent too. Tony's voice is KILLER here. Highlight: "The devil speaks..." , "Satanic courses"

    Giuntini Project II 8.0 - I didn't like this one some much from the begining. I like it very much now, though. Highligts: Letter from the dead, Sacrifice!

    Giuntini Project II 10.0 - pure genious. This is easily becomíng my favorite solo Martin project. Highligth: "Que es la vida", "Tarot Warrior"

    The Cage I 10.0 Love it! Highlights: "Cry myself to death", "Infinity"

    The Cage II 10.0 Great album as well. Highlights: "Overload", "Poison Roses"

    Misha Calvin-Evolution 6.0 - My least favorite Martin release. I listen to this very seldom. Highlights: "Strangers","Ready or not"

    Rondinelli - Our Cross, Our Sins 8.0. The production here is BAD. Boy I get a headache listening to this over the top guitarr and drums. Some excellent tunes: "Naughty Dragon
    ", "dawn"

    Forcefield - Talisman 9.5 I love this album. There are people who hate it, but I love music even non-metal, so this kind of soft rock appeals to me very much. Martin's voice here is incredible. Highlights : "Carry", "I Lose Again"

    M3 9.0 I love Tony singing Whitesnake. His voice is nothing like Coverdales, but he is not trying to be David. Great show: Highlight: "Lonely Days Lonely Nights","Walking in the Shadow of the Blues"

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    ... forgot M3

    M3 Classic snake Live 9.5
    Its Cool to hear Martin singing Snake [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    The Eternal Idol - 9
    Headless Cross - 10
    TYR - 10
    Cross Purposes - 9
    Cross Purposes Live - 9
    Forbidden - 8

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    headless cross 10
    tyr 9
    cross purposes 8
    eternal idol 7
    forbidden 6

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    Eternal Idol: 10/10
    Headless Cross: 8/10
    Tyr: 10/10
    Cross Purposes: 10/10
    Forbidden: 6/10
    The dog's name is Pete. If he tries to mount you in the middle of the night, say "no" sternly. But don't look him in the eye.

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    With Sabbath:
    The Eternal Idol: 10/10
    Headless Cross: 10/10
    TYR: 10/10
    Cross Purposes: 9/10
    Forbidden: 9/10

    Solo:
    Back Where I Belong: 8/10
    Scream: 10/10

    Dario Mollo:
    The Cage: 10/10
    The Cage II: 10/10

    Empire:
    Trading Souls: 9/10
    The Raven Ride: 10/10

    Overall: 10/10

    I bet that I change those ratings later.

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    Eternal Idol 2/10
    Headless Cross 9/10
    TYR 5/10
    Cross Purposes 7,5/10
    Forbidden 8/10

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    Eternal Idol 8,5/10
    Headless Cross 9/10
    TYR 9,5/10
    Cross Purposes 8/10
    Forbidden 10/10

    Scream: I haven't listend to it enough to rate it yet. Got it the day before yesterday.

    The blood runs free
    The rain turns red
    Give me the wine you keep the bread

 

 

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