Born Again Vs. Seventh Star?

**cwilder86** · 04-19-2009, 09:46 AM

So which do you guys prefer. I think I'm gonna have to go with Born again... But it's by a short margin. Because over the last few months I've really come to love Seventh Star.

**WarningRules** · 04-19-2009, 09:53 AM

Seventh Star

**H&H** · 04-19-2009, 09:56 AM

Born Again, hands down for me.

**Franklin** · 04-19-2009, 10:55 AM

Two of Sabbath's worst albums, so I have to call it a tie for second to last place (last place=Forbidden). This poll is like asking who's better, the L.A. Clippers or Memphis Grizzlies.

**Gregory House** · 04-19-2009, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Franklin

Two of Sabbath's worst albums, so I have to call it a tie for second to last place (last place=Forbidden). This poll is like asking who's better, the L.A. Clippers or Memphis Grizzlies.

Horrible Forbidden is great ,Kiss pf Death is classic Sabbath at its best , as for this poll have to go with Born Again with 7thstar close second !

**Monkey** · 04-19-2009, 01:06 PM

Born Again, i actually think it's a good album even though ian Gillian singing is laughable at times and the sound quality is atrocious.

**SabbathKing93** · 04-19-2009, 01:22 PM

Born Again. I may in the minority here but it's actually one of my favorite Sabbath albums of all time. I think Gillian's vocals fit very nicely with the music presented and I think it's a very doomy album, not in the traditional doom way though. It has a nice sludgy/slothy sound to it. Bill Ward's drumming performance is great, lots of great riffs and everything is just great.

Seventh Star just totally blows. There's really nothing good on that album whatsoever.

**Ashley Dalby** · 04-19-2009, 02:25 PM

I chose Seventh Star because I think it is better but since Born Again was the first Sabbath album I ever heard I have a soft spot for it.

**devilmaycare** · 04-19-2009, 02:59 PM

Seventh Star

**devstorm** · 04-19-2009, 02:59 PM

Born Again has some filler. But it's still entertaining. 7Th star........ ..... no.

**Jalien** · 04-19-2009, 03:30 PM

I prefer Born Again but Seventh Star is definatly a close second.

**sn0wb1ind0zzy** · 04-19-2009, 04:02 PM

Born Again - Lyrics may have been laughable but at least it had some good riffs.

**Icy Sun** · 04-19-2009, 08:04 PM

Definitely Born Again. I only like to tracks from Seveth Star, those being Heart Like a Wheel and the title track. Glenn Hughes is also by far my least favorite Sabbath singer.

**DiosSword** · 04-19-2009, 09:37 PM

I like them both, though they're very different.

Born Again is one of the band's most brutally heavy albums.

Seventh Star oozes class, but remember, it was never intended to be a Black Sabbath album.

**Rover** · 04-20-2009, 03:31 AM

Seventh Star. I actually quite like it.

**RLP4ever** · 04-20-2009, 06:16 AM

For a guy that still does not consider one of these two albums to be credibly even a Black Sabbath album at all, and indeed regards both these albums to be pretty shitty, I shouldn't even be here, voting and talking.

HOWEVER, while Seventh Star is a sappy, sucky snooze-fest, from start to finish, Born Again--despite my unabashed dissing of it here in the forums----has 1 cool song and maybe 2 other just about decent, alright songs on it. So yeah, I have to vote Born Again. And I did.

**RealityDream** · 04-20-2009, 11:16 AM

Seventh Star. It's a beautiful album. Born Again is good, but it doesn't compare to Seventh Star.

**Ozzien82** · 04-20-2009, 12:28 PM

Uh, well...a lot of validity in RLP's comments. I'll say "Born Again," but not by much.

**GillanTheHero** · 04-20-2009, 02:06 PM

Born Again got my vote. The best album by Sabbath so it was an easy decision

**AngryHeart** · 04-20-2009, 02:10 PM

Like Seventh Star, but LOVE Born Again.

**ThrasherBG** · 04-20-2009, 02:40 PM

I love them both but I voted Seventh Star!

**Sabbathfan78** · 05-15-2009, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by RLP4ever

For a guy that still does not consider one of these two albums to be credibly even a Black Sabbath album at all, and indeed regards both these albums to be pretty shitty, I shouldn't even be here, voting and talking.

HOWEVER, while Seventh Star is a sappy, sucky snooze-fest, from start to finish, Born Again--despite my unabashed dissing of it here in the forums----has 1 cool song and maybe 2 other just about decent, alright songs on it. So yeah, I have to vote Born Again. And I did.

I've always felt the same about these two albums. Born Again has a few good tunes but it's not much. On Seventh Star the only song I liked a little bit was In For The Kill. I also understand why they weren't that good though it must have been tough for Iommi to write good stuff with all the changes with the band between MR and SS.

**MattSabb88** · 05-15-2009, 06:11 PM

Seventh Star. Glenn Hughes is the f***in' man.

**KeepItWarm** · 05-15-2009, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by SabbathKing93

Born Again. I may in the minority here but it's actually one of my favorite Sabbath albums of all time. I think Gillian's vocals fit very nicely with the music presented and I think it's a very doomy album, not in the traditional doom way though. It has a nice sludgy/slothy sound to it. Bill Ward's drumming performance is great, lots of great riffs and everything is just great.

Seventh Star just totally blows. There's really nothing good on that album whatsoever.

Born Again is my favourite Black Sabbath album of all time.

**Ashley Dalby** · 05-24-2009, 04:51 AM

Originally Posted by RLP4ever

...Born Again--despite my unabashed dissing of it here in the forums----has 1 cool song and maybe 2 other just about decent, alright songs on it. So yeah, I have to vote Born Again. And I did.

Just wondered what that one 'cool' song and two 'just about decent' songs were...

**TYR66** · 05-24-2009, 05:50 AM

Born Again and Seventh Star can't be compare . When i saw in the press the 1st photo of Tony , Geezer and Ian : WOW ! incredible but honestly , i knew it was for a short time . I love Born Again , Ian is fantastic , but the album production ... everyone knows . After that , Seventh Star is a legendary and unique album . great passion around it since '86 . For me a very dramatic personnal event in my life this year . So 7th Star is very special for me , for always .
Musicaly , a great surprise for the association of Tony and Glenn . After Ozzy , Ronnie and Ian : Now Glenn . and After ? David or Robert ? An interview of Tony in the french press when it released said that the first idea of Tony : One face with David Coverdale and the other with Robert Plant . Finally it ' ll be Glenn for all . Personnal Regrets for David , not for Robert .
In fact, in the 80's , many trash metal fans love Born Again and many hair metal fans love Seventh Star .A killing war ! I love Both !!

**Iznogoud** · 05-29-2009, 01:39 PM

Born Again by far.

**enzothebaker** · 05-31-2009, 04:48 PM

'Born Again' wins. Even the shit official version if not the wildly superior original mix version. 3/4 of the original band and Ian Gillan? Holy Christ.

Poor 'Seventh Star'. I love this album, I love Glenn, and I love the naive and desperate feel of the album, but all things considered, it is so wrong, and was the first stop on the worst Sabbath era ever.

Does anyone remember Kerrang's 'Minotaur Miner Tour', Satan's Cobblers Bouncing Off My Chin, and Tony's cartoon overtures to get Lita Ford to join the band? Poor Tony, we should all buy him a round.

**kakarothusain** · 06-12-2009, 01:00 AM

My vote of course goes to Born again..
But ya i am also seeing this that Seventh Star are really improving and i am slowly they are attracting me in their fan list..

**Nightskald** · 06-19-2009, 06:03 AM

Born Again is my personal preference of the two albums - the chalk and cheese of Sabbath - both different, both have their good and bad tracks, but I think Born Again is superior to Seventh Star (interesting Seventh Star's lineup hasn't been derided as Deep Sabbath II, since Glenn Hughes was also a member of both bands).

Maybe it was because David Coverdale wasn't on Seventh Star as well.

**DistortedLie** · 08-11-2009, 10:47 AM

I'm probably incredibly late in giving my opinion... But I had to vote for Seventh Star. I really like the blusier sound to some of the songs, like, Heart Like a Wheel, for example. But I like Born Again too for any reason. I thought Born Again was Sabbath's grittiest(barring sound guality) album. I'll always find it hard if not impossible for me to pick favorites when it comes to any Sabbath album, song or line-up. My only wish is that Glenn Hughes would've handled all the bass himself on Seventh Star and the band not relying on another bassist.

**metalwarrior** · 01-27-2010, 09:35 AM

Born Again is one of my favorite Sabbath albums but the production and sound quality is very poor. However, Seventh Star had better production, it has better songs, and the album is better as a whole. I just got back from Egypt and I had a chance to listen to the title track over there. I did not have a chance to listen to it at the Pyramids (I did listen to Iron Maiden's Powerslave title track over there though and I also heard it live at a show I was at in June of 2008 which was why I listened to the Powerslave track) but I did listen to it a couple of times in Cairo along with Sphinx (The Guardian) and Danger Zone.

**Joe Siegler** · 02-02-2010, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by cwilder86

So which do you guys prefer. I think I'm gonna have to go with Born again... But it's by a short margin. Because over the last few months I've really come to love Seventh Star.

Where's the option for "This is a silly poll"?

**Hell_Awaits** · 02-03-2010, 12:07 AM

I have to go with Born Again. Its my favorite album. Ian stepped outside his element and excelled beyond expectation.

**WheelsOfConfusion** · 02-03-2010, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Where's the option for "This is a silly poll"?

No more silly than the following poll:

Which Sabbath track do you like the most?

- FX
-The Illusion of Power

You know what Joe, I think I just might put that up.

**Hurk** · 02-04-2010, 06:27 PM

Quite honestly, Born Again is the Sabbath album I play the most regardless of the era. While the mix is a bit funky, it's dark and nasty. The tour, which I had the great fortune of seeing in '83 with Nazareth opening was absolute sonic fury.

**paulsilence** · 02-04-2010, 06:54 PM

Extremely easy pick. Born Again. Aside from "In for the Kill" and "No Stranger to Love," nothing else from 7S stands out for me. Born Again is actually a midlister album for me, not my favorite Sabbath album, but far from the worst I've heard. Some songs are terrible ("Keep It Warm" and "Digital Bitch") but others are awesome ("Stonehenge/Disturbing the Priest" [yes, I'm grouping them together], the title track, and the derivative "Trashed").

**Totentanz** · 02-05-2010, 10:13 AM

Born Again for me.

I saw Sabbath in 85 or 86 (with Ray Gillen) and they were still selling the Born Again tour programs on that tour!

**Vol4onVol10** · 02-06-2010, 01:02 AM

Born Again.

Born Again may be badly produced (was Martin Birch too busy with Maiden or something?), and there may be a bit of filler (Digital Bitch, Keep it Warm), but with songs such as Trashed, Disturbing, Zero, and the title track, it is still an entertaining listen. I'd take it over the MTV genero-metal Seventh Star.

Note: This decision has not been influenced by my personal hatred of Glenn Hughes for ruining Deep Purple by turning them into a funk band, or my personal admiration of Ian Gillan for managing to create some of the best music ever with Deep Purple.

**The Uninvited Guest** · 02-06-2010, 01:36 AM

Born Again

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