Unreleased black sabbath w/dio.

[joebrice1992]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1imuS...ayer_embedded#!

[-E5150 StarWanderer-]

Here's hoping for a live record from the Dehumanizer tour to be released. That's something I've always wanted to see being added into the Sabbath catalgue. Maybe even the infamous Live Evil footage will see the light of day? Who knows what they will release as the time passes by. Except demo material of songs that never made it to the albums - Iommi probably has made a testament to ensure that not a single unfinished demo will ever be released

[Josef_K]

Sounds like great news :D I got the "And before ELF... there were Elves" CD and it sounds great, a bit touched up compared to the demos I heard before even though they left out some of my true favorites (cover of "Behind Blue Eyes" and "Lura Lura"). Anyway, I think that whatever they release it's gonna be awesome ^^

[nunoni]

interesting! Anyway, the 1992 Boston concert is "the" unofficial dehumanizer tour record, if they release anything it's bound to be that, so again nothing new, just a nice packaging.

[celt]

interesting! Anyway, the 1992 Boston concert is "the" unofficial dehumanizer tour record, if they release anything it's bound to be that, so again nothing new, just a nice packaging.

The Boston concert of course has good sound quality, but the keyboards seem a little high in the mix on this concert. I haven't listened to it for a while but did the band have a guest keyboardist that night? I think I recall Ronnie specifically thanking somebody toward the end of the show for playing keys during the gig, and it was not Nichols. And if so, perhaps that is why (because the keyboardist was a guest) they seem higher than usual during this show, as during most of the Dehumanizer shows the keyboards were not very prominent in the mix. Because remember, by this point the use of keyboards was really frowned upon in the METAL world after the excesses of the 1980s.

[Josef_K]

The Boston concert of course has good sound quality, but the keyboards seem a little high in the mix on this concert. I haven't listened to it for a while but did the band have a guest keyboardist that night? I think I recall Ronnie specifically thanking somebody toward the end of the show for playing keys during the gig, and it was not Nichols. And if so, perhaps that is why (because the keyboardist was a guest) they seem higher than usual during this show, as during most of the Dehumanizer shows the keyboards were not very prominent in the mix. Because remember, by this point the use of keyboards was really frowned upon in the METAL world after the excesses of the 1980s.

I haven't heard the full Boston concert so I never heard whoever Ronnie thanks, but I also found it a bit weird that the keyboards were so high in the mix, not only because it was unusual for metal bands at the time but because keyboards don't really fit that line up and especially not that album they were supporting at the time. I can understand a keyboard-heavy TYR tour, but not Dehumanizer :D

[Icy Sun]

Interesting...

You what I'd like it to be? I know it's a total pipe dream, but it'd be great to have a studio version of the whole Heaven and Hell song as they performed it on Live Evil.

[celt]

Interesting...

You what I'd like it to be? I know it's a total pipe dream, but it'd be great to have a studio version of the whole Heaven and Hell song as they performed it on Live Evil.

That of course would be great. But if any significant unreleased Dio-era Sabbath stuff (demos, scrapped songs, etc) exists, isn't this the kind of stuff that was supposed to be released on the deluxe versions? My interest is piqued, but only slightly because I doubt there is anything of any significance in the vaults...or is there?!

[nunoni]

errr... I always thought it was Geoff Nichols playing!

[celt]

errr... I always thought it was Geoff Nichols playing!

You are probably right. I will have to listen to it again, but I could have sworn I heard Ronnie thank a special guest keyboardist sometime during the gig. And this is why I have always thought the keys were unusually high in the mix. I could be wrong though.

[LouiST]

LoL Wendy said "shame to the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame".

[celt]

You are probably right. I will have to listen to it again, but I could have sworn I heard Ronnie thank a special guest keyboardist sometime during the gig. And this is why I have always thought the keys were unusually high in the mix. I could be wrong though.

Okay, I listened to the Boston '92 bootleg and Ronnie is not thanking a guest keyboardist but rather is thanking the crowd, and says he wishes they could be with them every night. Why I assumed Ronnie was thanking a guest keyboardist and saying he wished he could be with them (as in playing with Sabbath) every night is beyond me. So in other words...never mind my earlier stated theory as to why the keys were so high in the mix on the Boston soundboard bootleg, especially on "Children of the Sea."

[nunoni]

well, I love the Boston boot even with the keyboards!!! I got a version of it in 93 I think, and that's what changed my mind about Dehumanizer, which I didn't like at first, but those songs played live were so powerfull!

[celt]

well, I love the Boston boot even with the keyboards!!! I got a version of it in 93 I think, and that's what changed my mind about Dehumanizer, which I didn't like at first, but those songs played live were so powerfull!

I too love the album, love the Boston boot (despite the keys), and love the power of those live shows!

[Pink Led Rush]

What's the name of the Boston boot? The one I have says Class of 1992

[nunoni]

there's loads of them, some better, some "worse". That first one I got was As Darkness Hits

[mike146]

What's the name of the Boston boot? The one I have says Class of 1992

IMHO this is the best of the bunch

also, i found many of the boots on this tour to have the keys a little high for some reason. I know it didn't sound like that at the shows I attended though. The beacon in NYC was crushingly loud. Perhaps this is why the keys seem high on the soundboard, because they had to try to be heard in the live theater just a bit.

[nunoni]

IMHO this is the best of the bunch

also, i found many of the boots on this tour to have the keys a little high for some reason. I know it didn't sound like that at the shows I attended though. The beacon in NYC was crushingly loud. Perhaps this is why the keys seem high on the soundboard, because they had to try to be heard in the live theater just a bit.

I agree with this, I later got the Class of 1992 and it sounds great!

[Pope On Rope]

LoL Wendy said "shame to the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame".

I remember the fight involved in getting that place put in Cleveland and being very happy once it was settled (being from north east Ohio). Then things started go off the tracks, imo. It really is a f'ing joke of a 'Hall of Fame' now. Do yourselves a favor and look closely at the list of inductees. Then, the next time somebody says 'so and so should be be in there!', ask them/yourself if you really want your favorite artist associated with the (ever-growing) list of lame choices. Currently first on the list is ..... ABBA.

[J Hillenburg]

The album gets slagged alot, but I feel like that it built on the first two Dio albums rather than imitating them. If Mob Rules has a glaring flaw for me, it is that the album seems patterned on its predecessor, sharing similarities with track listing. The lyrics are the stronger than the first two albums and the band responded to the modern scene with a new found raw aggression that the Martin albums largely lacked. One of my favorite Sabbath albums, period.

The band toyed with the setlist more than usual for the tour and played a lot of inspired shows. Once again, the live versions of the Dehumanizer songs blew their studio counterparts into the dust. Boston is one of the best shows, hands down, but there are a few other superb recordings out there.

[J Hillenburg]

The album gets slagged alot, but I feel like that it built on the first two Dio albums rather than imitating them. If Mob Rules has a glaring flaw for me, it is that the album seems patterned on its predecessor, sharing similarities with track listing. The lyrics are the stronger than the first two albums and the band responded to the modern scene with a new found raw aggression that the Martin albums largely lacked. One of my favorite Sabbath albums, period.

The band toyed with the setlist more than usual for the tour and played a lot of inspired shows. Once again, the live versions of the Dehumanizer songs blew their studio counterparts into the dust. Boston is one of the best shows, hands down, but there are a few other superb recordings out there.

[StVitus]

the dehumanizer demo has alot of cool stuff on it including unreleased dio sabbath stuff, jams, the original master of insanity recorded with geezers solo band a few years earlier, a different version of computer god from geezers solo album, demo songs of dehumanizer

[LouiST]

I remember the fight involved in getting that place put in Cleveland and being very happy once it was settled (being from north east Ohio). Then things started go off the tracks, imo. It really is a f'ing joke of a 'Hall of Fame' now. Do yourselves a favor and look closely at the list of inductees. Then, the next time somebody says 'so and so should be be in there!', ask them/yourself if you really want your favorite artist associated with the (ever-growing) list of lame choices. Currently first on the list is ..... ABBA.

That's why Johnny Rotten called the Hall of Fame "a piss stain".

[nunoni]

The album gets slagged alot, but I feel like that it built on the first two Dio albums rather than imitating them. If Mob Rules has a glaring flaw for me, it is that the album seems patterned on its predecessor, sharing similarities with track listing. The lyrics are the stronger than the first two albums and the band responded to the modern scene with a new found raw aggression that the Martin albums largely lacked. One of my favorite Sabbath albums, period.

The band toyed with the setlist more than usual for the tour and played a lot of inspired shows. Once again, the live versions of the Dehumanizer songs blew their studio counterparts into the dust. Boston is one of the best shows, hands down, but there are a few other superb recordings out there.

good to see you dropped by to say something which I agree 100% with

[TheElfoid]

I remember the fight involved in getting that place put in Cleveland and being very happy once it was settled (being from north east Ohio). Then things started go off the tracks, imo. It really is a f'ing joke of a 'Hall of Fame' now. Do yourselves a favor and look closely at the list of inductees. Then, the next time somebody says 'so and so should be be in there!', ask them/yourself if you really want your favorite artist associated with the (ever-growing) list of lame choices. Currently first on the list is ..... ABBA.

I think people get too worked up over the HOF.

On the one hand, I don't think it's a remarkable accolade for a band to be included, or an injustice for them not to be.

On the other hand, I think it's a nice museum by the sounds of things, and anything which draws attention to historic rock musicians that might otherwise not be known by younger generations is a great thing.

I just thing like...who cares.

You're not one of those people stupid enough to think belonging to the HOF matters, but treating it like some disgusting shameful affair is also just...getting too worked up. Let them do what they wants. Chill.

[Danimal77]

We already have 3 albums of Dehumanizer demos, with at least 3 songs that never made it to the final product. Would be VERY interesting to hear some (even one) demos, or unreleased songs from the Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules recording sessions.

[Joe Siegler]

The guy doing the interview looks a bit like the 9th Doctor Who, Christopher Eccleston.