Geezer lyrics on Dehumanizer

[Pink Led Rush]

In this interview : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MNt...feature=g-vrec

Geezer mentions he and Ronnie got together and he wrote lyrics for 2 songs on Dehumanizer, anyone know which two songs they were? I was under the impression that Ronnie wrote everything on the album, but obviously was mistaken.

[KiloDeltaCharlie]

I'm sure I've read on these forums (but it may have been elsewhere) that Computer God was a song Geezer had written for his solo band originally and that he also wrote the lyrics for Master of Insanity.

[TYR66]

I'm sure I've read on these forums (but it may have been elsewhere) that Computer God was a song Geezer had written for his solo band originally and that he also wrote the lyrics for Master of Insanity.

You' re right KDCharlie , here's the proto Computer god demo . Not bad but I don' t recognize at all the final version .
a lot of Keys like all during this period , The singer sounds very good .

[TYR66]

and here's a 91's alternate version of "Master of Insanity"



Band Line up:
Geezer Butler - Bass
Carl Sentence - Vocals
Pedro Howse - Guitar
Gary Ferguson - Drums
Jezz Woodroffe - Keyboards

[Charger]

Yes, Computer God and Master Of Insanity were the songs that Geezer had the biggest role in. The latter even more so. It is lyrically bit different than the other songs on the album and has a very prominent bass so it is clear that Geezer had a lot to do with it.

[KazolOrajia]

I remember reading in Gary Sharpe-Young's book Black Sabbath: Never Say Die! 1979-1997 that the music and lyrics to 'Master of Insanity' was written by someone else, who's name I can't recall at the moment. The author interviewed him, and he said that he was happy when he found out Sabbath was going to use the song, but upset when they told him they couldn't credit him or Carl Sentance (who came up with the vocal melodies). If anyone owns a copy (I borrowed mine from the library, so I can't confirm right now), maybe they could check. But yeah, I always wondered if Geezer at least came up with the opening bass riff.

[Pink Led Rush]

You' re right KDCharlie , here's the proto Computer god demo . Not bad but I don' t recognize at all the final version .
a lot of Keys like all during this period , The singer sounds very good .

Well, that sounds pretty great, did this group ever do an album together? I don't think so, I would much prefer this stuff over later GZR stuff. Anyway, there's no lyrics in that song that made it over, all that made it over was the name, so that doesn't prove Geezer wrote the lyrics.

[Charger]

No they never did...not as far as I know anyways...

I doubt Geezer wrote lyrics to either one alone. I'm guessing it was a joined effort between him and Ronnie.

[Pink Led Rush]

and here's a 91's alternate version of "Master of Insanity"



Band Line up:
Geezer Butler - Bass
Carl Sentence - Vocals
Pedro Howse - Guitar
Gary Ferguson - Drums
Jezz Woodroffe - Keyboards

This one is very close to the final product, so does anyone know if Geezer did indeed write the lyrics or did Carl?

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No they never did...not as far as I know anyways...

I doubt Geezer wrote lyrics to either one alone. I'm guessing it was a joined effort between him and Ronnie.

Maybe on Computer God, but obviously not on Master of Insanity.

[Billy Underdog]

Maybe on Computer God, but obviously not on Master of Insanity.

The way i've understood it, Geezer had the titles (with some lyrics), but Dio chose to re-write the lyrics, possibly going with Geezer's "theme" or whatever.

[EDTRADER]

M.O.I on the demo the lyrics are exactly the same. Interview with Dio he said that It was wrong that Carl Sentance didn't get paid for that one.

[Pink Led Rush]

M.O.I on the demo the lyrics are exactly the same. Interview with Dio he said that It was wrong that Carl Sentance didn't get paid for that one.

So your saying Carl wrote those lyrics? Since it was Geezers band I would have thought he would have wrote them.

[EDTRADER]

That was the statement Dio said in Kerrang Magazine, and in the Never Say Die 1979-1997 book.
I wasnt there in the studios so all I can do is echo what those involved said.

[Charger]

So your saying Carl wrote those lyrics? Since it was Geezers band I would have thought he would have wrote them.

Well it's never been a secret that Geezer hated writing lyrics so I'm not all that surprised that he let somebody else write them in his solo band as well...same thing is with the GZR projects as well...part from Black Science which has a lot (but not all?) of Geezer's work since it's a very personal album to him about tv shows and movies that he liked to watch as a kid.

[IRON-MaN]

Geezer didn't write the lyrics for either songs on 'Dehumanizer' , it was Ronnie who wrote all the lyrics as officially stated on the album and band members , HOWEVER ! the whole concept of 'Computer God' along some other songs were inspired by a script Geezer wrote beforehand , it was said that it was huge that it was really difficult to put everything and all details in one song (Computer God) , Geezer's script originally included more details regarding the grim ripper which appears on the album artwork and which had something to do with the name 'Dehumanizer' , so basically Ronnie wrote the lyrics based on Geezer's script and which seems to some how inspire and set the direction (lyrically) for the rest of the album as well ! Ronnie wanted Geezer to get more involved with the lyrics but Geezer was not interested , Ronnie said it was a shame since Geezer always came with great stuff !

P.S - There are some very interesting early demos of 'Computer God' with Ronnie and Cozy on drums ( before he fell from his horse , broke his leg and got replaced with Vinny) , these demos are cool cause it shows how the band were jamming and experimenting with different ideas for this epic ( different music sections , vocal melodies , lyrics etc... )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaQVfCPNBo4

[Paulie 88]

and here's a 91's alternate version of "Master of Insanity"

Band Line up:
Geezer Butler - Bass
Carl Sentence - Vocals
Pedro Howse - Guitar
Gary Ferguson - Drums
Jezz Woodroffe - Keyboards

I thought Jimi Bell played guitar on this...

Bueller?
PAULIE

[IRON-MaN]

I thought Jimi Bell played guitar on this...

Bueller?
PAULIE

It's Jimi Bell indeed , he is the one who wrote the riff and contributed in the writing process of this song , he never got any credit though !

[SoundMaster]

and here's a 91's alternate version of "Master of Insanity"



Band Line up:
Geezer Butler - Bass
Carl Sentence - Vocals
Pedro Howse - Guitar
Gary Ferguson - Drums
Jezz Woodroffe - Keyboards

Holy crap, this is awesome! I'd not heard this previously. thanks for sharing!

[nunoni]

excellent version of MoI!!! I didn't know it either! When was this recorded, what is the time frame?

[Charger]

excellent version of MoI!!! I didn't know it either! When was this recorded, what is the time frame?

From 1991 I think. I have this on cd, (just found it) and listened to it again and indeed the lyrics are very very close to the Sabbath version, so Geezer surely wrote a lot of it himself.

Here's Computer God from bit earlier:




This isn't even close to the Sabbath version, so it seems that only thing that came from this was the title, which was probably from Geezer as well...
This doesn't even have Pedro Howse on guitar and has a much more 80s sound to it.

[SabbathKing93]

I think I like that version of 'Master Of Insanity' over the Dehumanizer album version. That Carl Sentence guy kinda has a Messiah Marcolin (Candlemass) overtone to his voice, he's good. However, that version of Computer God is in a way atrocious, keyboards kinda ruin it.

[Wicked Cricket]

I think it was Radio City concert where Dio says Geezer was talking about this kind of stuff years ago... when introducing Computer God. I always thought ALL MOVING PARTS STAND STILL was a precursor to this song, and probably was the song Dio was referring to when he made the RCMH comment.

[Charger]

I think it was Radio City concert where Dio says Geezer was talking about this kind of stuff years ago... when introducing Computer God. I always thought ALL MOVING PARTS STAND STILL was a precursor to this song, and probably was the song Dio was referring to when he made the RCMH comment.

Actually (if I remember, it's been a while (too long) since I watched it) but I think he was talking about Voodoo. He said something along the lines: Some form of Black magic that Geezer brought with him on some of travels years ago.

During that tour Ronnie never introduced Computer God since Drum Solo lead right into to the song.


All Moving Parts might actually have a some sort of a computer connection....it is quite a metaphorical song I think.

[-E5150 StarWanderer-]

Actually (if I remember, it's been a while (too long) since I watched it) but I think he was talking about Voodoo. He said something along the lines: Some form of Black magic that Geezer brought with him on some of travels years ago.

During that tour Ronnie never introduced Computer God since Drum Solo lead right into to the song.


All Moving Parts might actually have a some sort of a computer connection....it is quite a metaphorical song I think.

I think RJD said, and I'm paraphrasing: "a song Geezer brought from one of his frequent trips to the dark side". Could have meant Geezer's interest on books about occultism,smoking dope or something. Or maybe, just maybe Geezer has managed to create some sort of a passage, a wormwhole perhaps, to a parallel universe which he then visits in search for inspiration It's free to one's interpretation really...

[Charger]

I think RJD said, and I'm paraphrasing: "a song Geezer brought from one of his frequent trips to the dark side". Could have meant Geezer's interest on books about occultism,smoking dope or something. Or maybe, just maybe Geezer has managed to create some sort of a passage, a wormwhole perhaps, to a parallel universe which he then visits in search for inspiration It's free to one's interpretation really...

Ahh...he used that one at Radio City...sounds very familiar indeed. De had several intros to Voodoo on that tour. Sometimes he spoke about Geezer's fascination with caribbean cultures and sometimes about the "dark side"...Your interpretation might be spot on!

[KiloDeltaCharlie]

I think RJD said, and I'm paraphrasing: "a song Geezer brought from one of his frequent trips to the dark side". Could have meant Geezer's interest on books about occultism,smoking dope or something. Or maybe, just maybe Geezer has managed to create some sort of a passage, a wormwhole perhaps, to a parallel universe which he then visits in search for inspiration It's free to one's interpretation really...

A "trip to the Dark Side" you say, are you implying he may be a rogue Jedi?

[-E5150 StarWanderer-]

A "trip to the Dark Side" you say, are you implying he may be a rogue Jedi?

Now that you mention it, I did sense a strong presence in the Force on Sabbath's Helsinki concert back in 2009...