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  • Wall 666
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    Personally, thinking about it I'd love soundwise/production a combination Iommi's Fused album and Dio's Master Of The Moon. Or perhaps they could coax Martin Birch out of retirement for one more album or alternatively or perhaps use someone like Roy Z who got the best from Rob Halford/Bruce Dickinson/Sebastian Bach/Judas Priest/Helloween.

    Not being a musician I don't normally comment on this but I would love for Iommi to use the guitar tones he had on Psycho Man and the Born Again album. I also think it would be absolutely killer if Geezer brought back some of those bass effects from Born Again.

    Personally I'll be happy if the new album builds upon the three new songs but adds some time changes and variety so it's less plodding and monotonous - the kind of thing that was rife in the Ozzy era (Dirty Women, Sabbra Cadabra, Black Sabbath, Into the Void, Symptom of the Universe,Psycho Man) and evident in the initial Dio-run (Heaven and Hell, Die Young, Sign of the Southern Cross, Falling of the Edge of the World). I love the three new songs alot but they do seem to plod a little. The strongest would be a toss-up between Ear and Shadow - but Ear in the Wall is also excellent.

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  • Jarkko
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    Hopefully a mix of early H&H and MR sound and new heavier, but no any "indutrial" shit. Sounds of the 2000's with flavours of 80's.

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  • celt
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    Sabbathman's "metallic imagination" description of Tony and Ronnie writing and rehearsing the album in Tony's house was a thing of true beauty, and is probably a lot more accurate than we realize (or at least I'd like to think so).

    I'm sure most of you have seen this, but speaking of medieval-esque houses, here's a great video of Dio's house from back in about 1984.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgiqT5-xxsg

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  • Sabbathman
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    Originally Posted By: celt I would love to be a fly on the wall in Tony Iommi's house in England as he and Ronnie write and construct songs for the album, which was supposed to begin this month. Perhaps they are working together at this very moment!
    My metallic imagination: I bet Iommi's house just looks like an ordinary manor on the outside, but once you step inside and close the door behind you it's suddenly a lot bigger, other-wordly dimension where magical fires burn against walls of granite and titanium, where bolts of thunder fly in the distant ceiling, where raised-relief Celtic cross images fill every flat surface, where Iommi sits upon his shining black onyx throne unleashing his powerful riffs...making the already mercy-begging Devil cry his eyes out! Not to mention the arrival of Dio, who roars out the storm that rests in his lungs, making the little demon minions run in terror and agonizing earache...In this place of majesty these two titans create what we call HEAVY METAL!!!

    The reality: it would be very magical, gut-wrenching and heart-pounding excitement to experience the writing and rehearsing sessions of the forthcoming album, on location and as "a fly on the wall"...

    Now that would be something to remember!!!

    "Hey, what did you do last spring?"

    "Well, I was a guest at Tony Iommi's house while he and Ronnie James Dio wrote the new Heaven And Hell album...I also met Geezer Butler and Vinny Appice when they came to play their contributions, we used to take "few" beers with Geezer and go through some of his past trips to the dark side, I also took few arm-wrestling matches with Vinny...Well, what did you do?"

    "Ummm...I...never mind!"

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  • celt
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    Re: Heaven and Hell/Mob Rules or Dehumanizer?

    I would love to be a fly on the wall in Tony Iommi's house in England as he and Ronnie write and construct songs for the album, which was supposed to begin this month. Perhaps they are working together at this very moment!

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  • MobRules40
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    Those two don't put out new material unless it hits like a sledge hammer... Don't worry, it will please.

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  • Sabbathman
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    All I know already is that the new Heaven And Hell album will be a born classic. These guys with the professional talent and experience simply cannot miss! It's gonna be heavy rock, it's gonna be heavy metal...with some bluesy flavours by Iommi's OTT touches and Dio's soulful singing. Song-wise I would love to hear "emulations" of all 3 three past albums they have made together, sound-wise the album will most obviously follow the sound of the 3 new songs we already have.

    Heaven And Hell and Mob Rules are both OTT, stone-cold and versatile classics, there are only a few records in the world who can approach the godhood of these albums...but Dehumanizer is the most vicious, most powerful and most overkilling album Black Sabbath has ever made - certainly a brutal piece but still executed with a musical prowess and excellence this lineup has always guaranteed. Dehumanizer is not the very best album by Black Sabbath (if compared to Heaven And Hell or Headless Cross), but it's the most savage and grim!

    Off-topic sidenote:

    Mr. Dehumanizer is the ultimate and most evil bad-ass ever unleashed by Black Sabbath. As an ardent Judas Priest fan I would love to see the face-to-face match-up between Mr. Dehumanizer and Mr. Painkiller...because I think those 2 equally heavy and crushing but different albums are the extreme epitomes of heavy metal. Absolutely nothing can outshine their brutal sonic assault!!!

    Too much of this over-indulging praise? Well, that's me!!!

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  • metalwarrior
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    I just hope it's more melodic than Dehumanizer even though Dehumanizer is still a great album.

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  • h&hjr
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    My favorite of the three is mob rules but it would be cool to have maby a mix of dehuminizer and mob rules

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  • h&hjr
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    My favorite of the three is mob rules but it would be cool to have maby a mix of dehuminizer and mob rules

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  • Pkshields
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    Originally Posted By: Buttock1234
    Originally Posted By: Ray Rules I couldn't care less for Dehumanizer. Mob Rules is great, but I prefer the first one from this formation. Heaven and Hell, that's what I'm talking about.
    Then we are on opposite ends of the spectrum, mate.

    Heaven and Hell has gotta be my least favorite of the Dio-era albums.
    I agree with you, Dehumanizer is an extremely strong and is quite underrated compared to Heaven and Hell

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  • Pkshields
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    Originally Posted By: Buttock1234
    Originally Posted By: Ray Rules I couldn't care less for Dehumanizer. Mob Rules is great, but I prefer the first one from this formation. Heaven and Hell, that's what I'm talking about.
    Then we are on opposite ends of the spectrum, mate.

    Heaven and Hell has gotta be my least favorite of the Dio-era albums.
    I agree with you, Dehumanizer is an extremely strong and is quite underrated compared to Heaven and Hell

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  • The Butt
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    Originally Posted By: Ray Rules I couldn't care less for Dehumanizer. Mob Rules is great, but I prefer the first one from this formation. Heaven and Hell, that's what I'm talking about.
    Then we are on opposite ends of the spectrum, mate.

    Heaven and Hell has gotta be my least favorite of the Dio-era albums.

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  • The Butt
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    Originally Posted By: Ray Rules I couldn't care less for Dehumanizer. Mob Rules is great, but I prefer the first one from this formation. Heaven and Hell, that's what I'm talking about.
    Then we are on opposite ends of the spectrum, mate.

    Heaven and Hell has gotta be my least favorite of the Dio-era albums.

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  • Ray Rules
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    I couldn't care less for Dehumanizer. Mob Rules is great, but I prefer the first one from this formation. Heaven and Hell, that's what I'm talking about.

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