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    There was an argument on a forum. Black Sabbath was a hippie band or Black Sabbath hates hippies? [i'm talking about ozzy era]

  • #2
    ahh not a hippie band, and they were of the thinking that "its ok to think about peace and love and green grass blue skies, its a lovely thought, but it just aint that way..." (paraphrasing of what iommi said himself)
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    • #3
      Black Sabbath wasn't "anti-hippie" per se, but they were a contrast. Like TheHodge pointed out, Iommi has stated many times that the band members felt the hippie peace/love thing was crap, because it certainly didn't resemble the hardcore industrial world from which they came. Instead, Black Sabbath demonstrated that there was a darker side.

      Hippie band? No.

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      • #4
        Black Sabbath was not a hippie band. As I understand it, Sabbath didn't necessarily hate hippies, but a lot of hippies hated them.

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        • #5
          Black Sabbath killed the hippie's buzz with dark music.

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          • #6
            Sabbath destroyed the hippies. Thank God. Love many of the San Franciso bands but for the political and some social stands they were the worst generation America has ever had. I do support the civil rights but not much past that.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kentuckyfan View Post
              Sabbath destroyed the hippies. Thank God. Love many of the San Franciso bands but for the political and some social stands they were the worst generation America has ever had. I do support the civil rights but not much past that.


              amen !!

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              • #8
                Hey, the Manson "Family" were hippies too. Think of it that way.

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                • #9
                  I've heard all the interviews where they say they were against hippies, that they killed the hippie dream and this and that, but in the early days they certainly dressed like hippies and some of the songs have hippie messages (Children of the Grave). And Ozzy threw up peace signs and said "We Love U!" for how many years? They may not have been as hippy as the Grateful Dead, but they definitely had some hippie tendencies in the early days. It was probably impossible not to at the time. That crap was everywhere.

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                  • #10
                    Maybe they were a bit hippie in their days as Polka Tulk and then Earth, but as Ozzy said, "Black Sabbath (the song) was a reaction to all the peace, love and happiness shit that was going about at the time. The hippies said, "The world is so beautiful, man", but you only had to look around to see how crappy it was."

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                    • #11
                      I'm inclined to believe that their hippie days didn't start until around Vol.4. Honestly, at about that time, their entire musical approach (and then-some) changed dramatically, and Ozzy's stage show became more "I love you all" oriented, and he dressed a lot more accordingly to the hippie code. It's really interesting to see not just how the music changes in this era of time, but the imagery behind it. Not to mention, the attitude.
                      How could this poison be the dream of my soul
                      How did my fantasies take complete control, yeah

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                      • #12
                        They looked like hippies in their early days (inner gatefold of Paranoid), and partook of a lot of the same "recreational chemistry," but hippies they most certainly were not.

                        My older sister was a hippy. Hippies really believed that putting flowers in the barrels of rifles would cure the world's ills.

                        Black Sabbath exposed the world's ills unvarnished for all the world to see. Geezer once said, "The world's a right fucking shambles."
                        He is not here. He has risen!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by forever now View Post
                          There was an argument on a forum. Black Sabbath was a hippie band or Black Sabbath hates hippies? [i'm talking about ozzy era]
                          Sabbath were not hippies. Their hairstyles, flared pants and platform shoes gave them a mild hippy look, but that was the fashion then. Ozzy is still doing the peace sign now and hippydom is decades long gone!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SammiCurr View Post
                            I've heard all the interviews where they say they were against hippies, that they killed the hippie dream and this and that, but in the early days they certainly dressed like hippies and some of the songs have hippie messages (Children of the Grave). And Ozzy threw up peace signs and said "We Love U!" for how many years? They may not have been as hippy as the Grateful Dead, but they definitely had some hippie tendencies in the early days. It was probably impossible not to at the time. That crap was everywhere.

                            I respectfully disagree with something you said above ... "Children of the Grave" isn't anymore "hippy" than was Megadeth chanting "Peace sells, but who's buying?"

                            Sabbath were never a band that dwelled on negative messages ... they simply pushed their message forward using dark imagery. Whereas a song like CotG sends its message in a "if you don't do this, these bad things will happen" type of way, hippies would have just exposed the positive side ... "work for peace and love ... let me have another flower in my hair ... la-tee-da ..."
                            When I say Sabbath never (for the most part) dwelled on negative messages
                            I mean, for instance:
                            The song Black Sabbath isn't a "pro-Satan" song
                            War Pigs isn't pro war and hate
                            Hand of Doom isn't pro-drugs
                            After Forever is pro-Christianity
                            Into the Void is pro-peace and environmentalism

                            But the way these messages were presented scared the living doo-doo out of peaceful hippies! No, Sabbath were not a hippy band

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                            • #15
                              I think Sabbath were realistic hippies, we can have peace and love, if we change our ways, not through unrealistic flower power peace, love and sex.
                              So you children of the world, listen to what I say if you want a better place to live in spread the words today Show the world that love is still alive you must be brave or you children of today are Children of the Grave, Yeah!
                              As someone pointed out the Manson family were hippies, of which I just seen a couple of movies regarding them.
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