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  • Franklin
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    Originally posted by Monster Boy View Post
    Hmm. I would think there are other factors involved, but I guess you've got the guys figured out. I'll make sure not to buy the album, thanks for the info.
    Don't let me talk you into or out of buying the album. You're apparently implying much more from my comment than I intended. Do whatever the fuck you want. Leave me out of it.

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  • Monster Boy
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    Originally posted by Franklin View Post
    ...this is nothing but a major money grab.
    Hmm. I would think there are other factors involved, but I guess you've got the guys figured out. I'll make sure not to buy the album, thanks for the info.

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  • Wicked Cricket
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    Originally posted by THEBEAVERINTHEMANHAT View Post
    I love Oz, but to quite honest, I don't think he's ever been a great singer; he's like Lou Reed, lucky to have a gig with what he's got. Sure it's faded over the years, but I don't think that really will kill this reunion album. They'll do wonders with Oz's voice, I think his voice has been great on album for the past twenty years (not saying I like the albums) but his voice hasn't shown any flaws to me on record/cd. Live is another thing. Despite Oz's voice, he gives 110 percent, his energy level and presence is really three quarters of the show; so as long as he's there and crazier than ever I'm chuffed. This is going to be great, no matter what, the chemistry these four have will shine through, look what Tony & Geezer were able to do w/ Dio & Vinny with TDYK album....I think we're in safe hands with Oz & Bill AND Rick Rubin.....
    TheBeaverintheManHat
    Maybe not great" in the purist sense, but he's truly original and unique sounding, and had as much to do with Sabbath's sound as the music did. I can't fatham what Sabbath would have been without his voice. And his high octave vocals from the SBS and Sabotage days are great. He's got the perfect heavy metal voice because it's listenable, compared to so many others, and he has an emotional quality to what he sings that I don't hear in other metal singers. He sings the songs like they are coming straight from the heart.

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  • Franklin
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    Because Ozzy has been a lousy singer for at least the last 27 years and this is nothing but a major money grab. There are other reasons, but these are the two biggest ones.

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  • THEBEAVERINTHEMANHAT
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    I love Oz, but to quite honest, I don't think he's ever been a great singer; he's like Lou Reed, lucky to have a gig with what he's got. Sure it's faded over the years, but I don't think that really will kill this reunion album. They'll do wonders with Oz's voice, I think his voice has been great on album for the past twenty years (not saying I like the albums) but his voice hasn't shown any flaws to me on record/cd. Live is another thing. Despite Oz's voice, he gives 110 percent, his energy level and presence is really three quarters of the show; so as long as he's there and crazier than ever I'm chuffed. This is going to be great, no matter what, the chemistry these four have will shine through, look what Tony & Geezer were able to do w/ Dio & Vinny with TDYK album....I think we're in safe hands with Oz & Bill AND Rick Rubin.....
    TheBeaverintheManHat

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  • celt
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    Originally posted by Wicked Cricket View Post
    Every singer live has his ups and downs live, even in their prime.
    This is very true. In fact, listen to the old Sabbath bootlegs with Ozzy. Ozzy always sounded great on the albums, but there are a lot, and I mean a lot, of performances by Ozzy from his Sabbath days in which he does not sound very good live, "Live at Last" comes to mind. I think that Ozzy really hit his peak as a live performer in the early 1980s, but before that time, and since, has been hit or miss. So the point I am trying to make is that Ozzy will be just fine live on this tour, because, and I think a lot of people either don't realize or don't remember, Ozzy was never all that great live when he was in his 20s singing for Sabbath. The really important thing in all this is the new album, on which, Ozzy will sound more than good. I bet that Rick Rubin will have Ozzy singing in lower octaves like he did on the first two Sabbath albums, especially the first one.

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  • Wicked Cricket
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    Ozzy's voice is fine, he sounded very good on his last album, I'm not worried in the least he won't be able to pull it off in the studio. Every singer live has his ups and downs live, even in their prime. He'll do fine. And the Reunion tour show cased songs from every album except NSD, so I'm quite pleased in their overall performances as recently as 2005.

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  • Drago
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    Originally posted by architect View Post
    I think this is going to be great. I just listened to ozzmosis. what a great album and ozzy sounds fantastic on it. I hope he can deliver vocals like that. The song Thunder underground sounds a bit like sabbath to me and it has geezer playing bass to.
    Ozzy does sound amazing on Ozzmosis. In fact, Geezer wrote the lyrics to Thunder Underground as well. Very close to being a Sabbath song indeed.

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  • architect
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    I think this is going to be great. I just listened to ozzmosis. what a great album and ozzy sounds fantastic on it. I hope he can deliver vocals like that. The song Thunder underground sounds a bit like sabbath to me and it has geezer playing bass to.

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  • mikesline
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    this is some bullshit crap your talking about first to not like the ozzy era "MORE" than the dio-martin era is funny to me,i too love those first two dio lp's enough
    to go to coliseum,long beach shows in 80-81-here in La,but i grew-up with BLACK SABBATH. i don't what to say ozzy era,cause there was no such thing as "era" to me
    that is BLACK SABBATH. FOUR guys who came from Aston. i attended concerts in the seventies and obviously older that you (warningrules) so i view things from a deeper place than you. And i'm really in shock to know that the aston gang is gonna come-out with a new LP. it is mind blowing to know i'm gonna get some new music from those four guys soon.FUCKING AWSOME! good or bad vocals -You Know his voice it's OZZY!! argue all you want about "i hope his voice is good" OR "dio is better" IT IS BLACK SABBATH
    the same band i followed when i was a kid,and the same band who was inducted to the hall of fame. Trust In The SABB! IT'S GONNA BE OK ! "for those who love BLACK SABBATH"

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  • mythology
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    Originally posted by OZZYIRONMAN View Post
    If you think it'll be shit before its out , then it will be (to you)
    I think it's going to be shit. I hope it's going to be great.

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  • OZZYIRONMAN
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    Originally posted by mythology View Post
    Agree with every word of that.
    If you think it'll be shit before its out , then it will be (to you)

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  • mythology
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    Originally posted by David86 View Post
    I think it's gonna be shit, but I'll still buy it, listen to it several times, go to a gig if possible, and enjoy the fact that the band which got me into music is still going on after all these years.
    Agree with every word of that.

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  • gunman42782
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    I don't think Ozzy's voice has gone to shit, as the OP said. Granted, it isn't what it was when he was a kid, but despite what others may think, Dio's wasn't either. You could hear the age in his voice on the last album. Not that it wasn't still great. Ozzy can still make a great studio album with all the new fangled stuff they have. Hell, they could probably even make me sound good! Now, if he can pull it off live is another story, but he has been doing it for years. As for Ozzy not having a good album since Randy died, that is pure BS. His last album, Scream, is one of the best of his carear, and the song Digging Me Down is IMHO, the best song he has ever done solo. It very well could have been a Sabbath song.

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  • Ochlocracy
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    I think it will be good. Tony says he's been writing some riffs that are the best he's done in years. When's the last time he said that? All of the band members seem fired up (Well, Geezer hates press conferences and is generally gloomy).

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