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  • Geezer Butler says it is the last tour

    http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/en...-straight.html

    ďIíve always said as long as I can play, as long as I can do it to a good level, then Iíll keep doing it because I still really enjoy playing,Ē he tells The Chicago Sun-Times. ďIíll know when the day comes I canít do this anymore, canít play to my usual standards. Thatís when I wonít go out anymore. I wonít do that to me self. But at the moment, I just love playing with the band. It probably will be the last time, will probably be the last tour. But I want to go out on a high. The band is playing really well at the moment.

    ďItís getting tough, it really is. I canít lie about that. Iím old now. It really is tough going on every night. You wake up next day, all the pains you never had before. I donít want to go onstage for the sake of the money. You have to have a lot pride in yourself, and I honestly think Iím coming to the end of the top of my job.Ē


    If this happens I really hope Ozzy and Tony do not carry on as Black Sabbath.
    Last edited by mythology; 08-15-2013, 07:42 AM.

  • #2
    I think sav for an occasional "special" performance, yea it should be the end... they can hang their hats on a #1 album, a great tour, let's not become a parady of what we were like the Stones, Jagger and Richards look like 2 old grandmothers for Christ's sake! I'm ok if this is indeed the end... nothing lasts forever..
    "Music is so sacred to me that I canít hear wishy-washy nonsense just played for the sake of selling records."
    R. Blackmore

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    • #3
      Hurts to hear him say that... But at the same time Ozzy and Tony lead on that it isn't. You just never know... Time will tell the tail. If it is the end, then what a way to go out!!

      But lets not forget, WE HAVE 4 MORES SONGS STILL TO GO. We will get these 4 within a year or so i'm guessing. We always have that to look forward to.
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      • #4
        edit the title to *probably

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        • #5
          Who knows, maybe after the tour they will still make albums. I may not have the luck to see them on stage, but at least I can witness the outburst of Sabbath's strength.
          Do you hear the thunder raging in the sky?
          Premonition of a shattered world thatís gonna die.
          In the age of reason, how do we survive?
          The protocols of evil ravaging so many lives?

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          • #6
            I don't think bands make much, if any, money from recording...selling records.

            So without a tour, it's unlikely we're going to see any records. Sharon will have to go back to propping up Ozzy supported by 20 year olds again detuning to Bass-E

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            • #7
              The full interview is very interesting. Particularly the part I have made bold. Rick Rubin thinks in exactly the same way as me!!

              Question: The new album sounds more connected with the earliest music of Black Sabbath. Was that the goal?

              Geezer Butler: That’s why [“13” producer] Rick Rubin came in. We played him a lot of stuff Tony had written. He thought some of it was too quote-unquote heavy metal. He said, “Go back to the first album. You didn’t start out as a heavy metal band. When you first started, you were a blues-based band, playing much more off-the-cuff, avant-garde kinds of stuff. Forget anything remotely that sounds like Metallica or someone copying heavy metal.” He told us, “If you do a heavy metal album, then it’ll sound like you copying what other people think you sound like.” That gave us direction, which made it a lot easier to pick out songs we were going to work on.

              Q. Interesting that the band needed him to remind you of your original power? Why?

              GB: Music has changed so much. I think it’s just the labels people put on us. A lot of them think of us as “the ultimate heavy metal band.” That started us thinking that what people think of as heavy metal doesn’t sound anything like our first three albums. If we tried to modernize, it would be laughable. So it’s just going back to what you do best: not trying to sound like anyone else, not trying to be trendy, do what you know, do what you do best.

              Q. Despite being associated with the occult or nonsense like that, I always read the lyrics you wrote on those early records as anti-war.

              GB: They still work. Things like “War Pigs.” There’s always going to be war in the world. Like we say on the new album, there’s no war worth dying for. It’s still the same old political situation that goes on. No matter who you vote for, it always seems like the same people. The religious right is always totally biased against people. We’ve never been anti-religious in our songs. The first song we wrote, “Black Sabbath,” was a warning against cults, which a lot of people were getting into at the time. We were warning against that kind of thing. But people misread all these things, and it just became something for them to bash us about.

              Q. Why were you drawn to darkness as a lyricist?

              GB: I was brought up in a very religious family so I knew a lot about religion. Me dad was in the military and my brothers were in the army. So I knew what it was like to have brothers go up and fight somewhere. And the area that we were brought up wasn’t a very posh area. Where we grew up, in Aston [an area within Birmingham], that had been heavily bombed during World War II, and there weren’t no money around. I was born in 1949, a couple of years after the war finished, and all the bomb-filled sites were still all around us. They didn’t do anything with it, as far as rebuilding, until the 1960s. So when you grow up in a bombed-out area, and in a quite tough section of England, you just see the dark side. And then you listen to other people talk about love, and hippies, it didn’t apply for us. We saw the dark side of it all.

              Q. In writing this new album, was it difficult to return to those dark topics now that you’ve achieved fame?

              GB: The world hasn’t changed. It has changed incredibly, technically, but there’s still incredible inhumanity in the word. For me, it’s obviously changed. I don’t have to worry about money and I have a nice family. I just have to look at the world outside of that. You can have as much money as you like, but it really doesn’t make you any happier. I know a lot of people who’ve got tons of money and they’re the most unhappy people on earth.

              Q. As a musician, do you feel still up to your powers? A lot of your peers have struggled to stay relevant.

              GB: I’ve always said as long as I can play, as long as I can do it to a good level, then I’ll keep doing it, because I still really enjoy playing. I’ll know when the day comes I can’t do this anymore, can’t play to my usual standards. That’s when I won’t go out anymore. I won’t do that to me self. But at the moment, I just love playing with the band. It probably will be the last time, will probably be the last tour. But I want to go out on a high. The band is playing really well at the moment.

              Q. Why the last?

              GB: I don’t know. I just got a feeling. It’s getting tough, it really is. I can’t lie about that. I’m old now. It really is tough going on every night. You wake up next day, all the pains you never had before. I don’t want to go onstage for the sake of the money. You have to have a lot pride in yourself, and I honestly think I’m coming to the end of the top of my job.

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              • #8
                If this happens they should put Sabbath to rest. It's sad to see Ozzy on stage at this time. He looks like he could fall over at any second and has a perpetual glaze in his eyes. He had a ton of eyeliner on the other night.
                Get yourself afraid, Get yourself alone, Get yourself contained, Get yourself control - Soundgarden

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                • #9
                  Ozzy does look pretty old. Tony and Geezer honestly have looked the same for years to my eyes. Tony maybe a little different now after the treatments but still looks good. If they do call it quits, I'm glad we got the album and the tour. What a show they put on.

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                  • #10
                    Well, you know what rockers are like. They tour; they get tired; they retire, and then a year later they are sitting in front of their fireplace, looking out the window and tapping their foot, and suddenly they are back in the studio and on tour again. The memories of being old and tired fade fast, and the cycle always repeats itself. There will always be something going on with these guys, as long as they remain amicable and healthy. I do think that it would be wrong on every level for Black Sabbath to re-invent itself yet again, and carry on with some alternate line-up. We have seen that too many times before, and it is time to end on a high, if the legend must end.
                    Casting his shadow, weaving his spell, funny clothes, tinkling bell.

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                    • #11
                      I never thought I'd hear this from Geezer. Ozzy has been frail for a while and Tony of course has his illness but Geezer always seemed like a rock who could keep going and going.

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                      • #12
                        Remember, Geezer was the one when asked before 11-11-11 if they'd ever reunite he replied probably not, or never or something like that... personally I wouldn't mind new music, I could do without the live tour... I rarely see live bands anymore don't like the crowds... if I'd never seen them live before I would have definitly gone to see them this year... but I've seen them a dozen times or more at least Geezer and Iommi...
                        "Music is so sacred to me that I canít hear wishy-washy nonsense just played for the sake of selling records."
                        R. Blackmore

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                        • #13
                          They are all in their mid 60's, well off, and with wives and families. If they can lure Bill back for one last hurrah, then that would be great. Otherwise I wouldn't fault them if this was their last outing.
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                          • #14
                            I think everything has been taken out of context.

                            "Probably the last tour" ?? Yeah soooooooo, i always thought it would be the last too, but he didn't say they would stop creating music and/or doing one off gigs.

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                            • #15
                              What I want to know is, if Geezer is getting tired and sore just hammering away at his bass, how the hell is Ozzy still going? Supernatural.

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