Ozzy-Era Female Audience

[Vynlsol]

The world is too politically correct.

its okay to make fun of religious figures but not okay to use terms of endearment.

Come on OID, that was weak and you know it. Doc typed those words with a specific purpose in mind and it wasn't from a place of peacemaking.

The light switch cover's relevance to this thread, if one wants to put the thought into it, is that the best intentions are often worthless when the execution of those intentions is hamfisted.

Instead of being reminded of one of the ten commandments every time someone switches the light on/off, they are reminded of two kids watching you finger the holy sausage. WTF lol.

"Political correctness" does not figure into this at all.

[OzzyIsDio]

The world is too politically correct.

its okay to make fun of religious figures but not okay to use terms of endearment.

[Sabbabbath]

1. Only William can answer why he has become so hyper-sensitive about Turch.

2. Doc using terms of endearment like "honey" and "sweetheart" as pejoratives is piss-poor comportment

3. Can anyone explain wtf is going on with this:

[William_the_Bloody]

1. Only William can answer why he has become so hyper-sensitive about Turch.

Came out of the woodwork just to call me a troll and what not. You don't go calling people trolls, it's the six-gun shooter of the weak and extremely disappointing person on any given forum.

Probably just wants to try to appear to be "all manly" defending the (ahem...ahem....AHEM...damn, can't seem to clear my throat...) "Honor" of the alleged female from the mean man with all the word ammo.

Did it work for anyone? It did not work for me.

[William_the_Bloody]

...and here you go again showing off your wealth, this time by rubbing it in everybody's face how many super-rare Sabbath recordings you have. I guess most of your followers don't even notice that you are fobbing them off with widely and commercially available recordings, while at the same time hoarding every one of those truly rare and super "secret" (LOL) recordings that you keep bragging about. (I will leave it to religious people like you to discuss what the bible has to say about such behavior. Quite a lot actually.) I am sure that the people who gave you all those super duper mega rarities are fully aware that you keep talking about them on a forum that can be read by every person on the internet without even registering, aren't they?

I don't know how you were brought up, but at least in the part of the Sabbath collecting and trading scene where I feel at home it is common to share those recordings one is talking about when somebody requests them; and it is equally common to keep one's mouth shut about those recordings one won't are can't share anyway.

By the way, just stop calling me "honey" or "sweetheart" or anything like that. Even your alter ego Ronn hasn't been called "pumpkin" or "pookie" by you either (AFAIK), so maybe you can reserve at least that way of belittling others to whoever requests it.


Well, quite a lot of words for somebody who suggests that I am the one who got her teeth sunken in and cannot let go. I even ignored the comment where you suggested that everybody else here, or maybe Turch in particular (you didn't really make clear who you were addressing) is beneath you. The only reason why I referred to our discussion again was that I found it interesting how BTE disagreed and agreed with you at the same time. As for your request for textual evidence, honestly: given that you still haven't adressed any of my main arguments (or rather, my rebuttals of your arguments) at all, and instead keep switching subjects and points whenever anything you said gets refuted, why should I start trying to argue with you again? Why should anybody bother to present further evidence to you after you ignored pretty much every peace of evidence that has been presented on this thread already? Anybody who can read can make up their own minds on which person and what point is right or wrong here.

Anyhow, after all you've said in this thread (and given the way you said it), it seems pretty obvious why women who are truly into Sabbath don't exactly seek your company.


I can imagine that Turch might have better things to do than proving to you what a "cool" person (according to your definition, of course) he is. Anyway, maybe I am wrong and that's exactly the way he wants to spend his leisure time.

The part where you think that my personal experiences can be "refuted" with some sort of imagined "evidence" (Pro tip: Words on screen are not "evidence" by any definition) demonstrates a clear and present disconnect from reality and invalidates the entirety of your, (for lack of a better word) argument.

[Sicko FanAtic]

No personal attacks they say, but truly, these are the best types of threads. I don't hang round these parts much these days, but this has been must see TV for me. I would argue that such arguments boost the traffic to the site, and as such, personal attacks should in fact be obligatory instead of prohibited. With that in mind: Y'all suck!!

[Vynlsol]

1. Only William can answer why he has become so hyper-sensitive about Turch.

2. Doc using terms of endearment like "honey" and "sweetheart" as pejoratives is piss-poor comportment

3. Can anyone explain wtf is going on with this:

[Sabbabbath]

Honey , if you saw my Sabbath contents and assemblage you would fall down , to be fair so would Iommi.

...and here you go again showing off your wealth, this time by rubbing it in everybody's face how many super-rare Sabbath recordings you have. I guess most of your followers don't even notice that you are fobbing them off with widely and commercially available recordings, while at the same time hoarding every one of those truly rare and super "secret" (LOL) recordings that you keep bragging about. (I will leave it to religious people like you to discuss what the bible has to say about such behavior. Quite a lot actually.) I am sure that the people who gave you all those super duper mega rarities are fully aware that you keep talking about them on a forum that can be read by every person on the internet without even registering, aren't they?

I don't know how you were brought up, but at least in the part of the Sabbath collecting and trading scene where I feel at home it is common to share those recordings one is talking about when somebody requests them; and it is equally common to keep one's mouth shut about those recordings one won't are can't share anyway.

By the way, just stop calling me "honey" or "sweetheart" or anything like that. Even your alter ego Ronn hasn't been called "pumpkin" or "pookie" by you either (AFAIK), so maybe you can reserve at least that way of belittling others to whoever requests it.

... !!! ??? ...

Well, quite a lot of words for somebody who suggests that I am the one who got her teeth sunken in and cannot let go. I even ignored the comment where you suggested that everybody else here, or maybe Turch in particular (you didn't really make clear who you were addressing) is beneath you. The only reason why I referred to our discussion again was that I found it interesting how BTE disagreed and agreed with you at the same time. As for your request for textual evidence, honestly: given that you still haven't adressed any of my main arguments (or rather, my rebuttals of your arguments) at all, and instead keep switching subjects and points whenever anything you said gets refuted, why should I start trying to argue with you again? Why should anybody bother to present further evidence to you after you ignored pretty much every peace of evidence that has been presented on this thread already? Anybody who can read can make up their own minds on which person and what point is right or wrong here.

Anyhow, after all you've said in this thread (and given the way you said it), it seems pretty obvious why women who are truly into Sabbath don't exactly seek your company.

I'm told you're cool; I wonder if any evidence to that notion will reveal itself?

I can imagine that Turch might have better things to do than proving to you what a "cool" person (according to your definition, of course) he is. Anyway, maybe I am wrong and that's exactly the way he wants to spend his leisure time.

[BACK TO EDEN]

^^^^^ Explains your point to a "T" , best post by anyone in a year .... that was awesome!

With that , I'm off to Church.





Just friggin AWESOME!

[William_the_Bloody]

Hey Doc, confusing Sabbath forum with church, don't you. I am sure people in church will be delighted when you start preaching to them about Seventh Star.


Well, I believe that every human being deserves to listen to the Black Sabbath shows they want to, even Ronn aka you.

You are saying this:

and this at the same time:

So William was right and wrong at the same time: there are true female Sabbath fans and there are not? Well, I guess logical consistency is just something that got spilled on the floor when you and a few others here were supposed to drink from it as kids.

I don't believe I *ever* said there aren't any "true" female Sabbath fans. If you can produce text I wrote that makes this claim, I invite you to do so.

No, what I believe is that you're putting a hyper-sensitive spin on what I said. What I've actually said and maintained is that I've never MET a "true" female Sabbath fan by *my* standards. "Met" is defined as someone I've personally interacted with in real life, and not just on an internet forum.

I gave several examples of the types of females I have encountered who either claim to be a "Fan" or appear to be based on their T-shirt choice. I believe most people here would agree that, given my examples, they would find it difficult to call those females true fans.

But you, person who goes by Linda, if memory serves, you've got your teeth sunken in, don't you? You've bitten in and now you are determined to keep clenching with your jaw until blood is drawn or limbs are severed. This thread seems to mean everything to you; the fate of the world (or maybe just the gender you identify with) depends on the outcome of this thread and the defeat of the evil, vile William_the_Bloody.

You seek to discredit and nullify my personal experiences at all costs, to the point of dispensing with the text as written and choosing instead imaginary quotes that suit your agenda.
(Somehow, this makes me a troll in the eyes of the very small-minded.)

I gather that in order for this to be over, I must blindly accept your anecdotes of these legions of hard-core female Sabbath fans that are out there, somewhere (perhaps in Sri Lanka, I'm unware of their musical tastes and trends there) and be contrite in my acceptance of these fables.

Let us all, just for a moment, sit back and recollect all of the times we've been a passenger in a female's car and been subjected to the musical stylings of Black Sabbath. I remember all of the times I had to sweep away a pile of Black Sabbath jewel cases off of the passenger seat before I could sit down. I remember all of those female stereos that were modified to have an aux input so they could get their Sabbath-heavy playlists off of their devices and into their car audio.

Let's all sit on the porch and pour ourselves a glass of Country Time Lemonade from a pitcher, rocking gently in our wooden, antique rocking chairs...smell of cinnamon brooms in the air...and reminisce about all the times our girlfriends dragged us to the record store because she heard there was still a copy of TYR on Vinyl sitting there, and it's the only one she doesn't have.

Or all of the times we first went to our new girlfriends houses as teens and, entering the sanctity of her bedroom, seeing all of the Geezer Butler posters on the wall.

Don't you all remember these times? What about that girl you knew who tried to re-create Iommi's 7th Star Jacket, the one with all the dangling crosses?

Let's all make a list of the names of the ladies we know who can, without using a search engine, type out all of the lyrics to...oh, let's not make it too hard...Snowblind.

Yes, I stand corrected, there are a TON of real, female Black Sabbath fans out there. Just a ton. Their name is Legion: I am humbled and shamed in my correction on this subject.

I will take measures to kill myself as soon as possible; I have dishonored my ancestors.

-WTB

[William_the_Bloody]

William, my mother is dead.

Yes, but still *her* basement, in spirit.

Hope that clears things up.

I'm told you're cool; I wonder if any evidence to that notion will reveal itself?

[BACK TO EDEN]

Awwww , you are truly adorable ..... OK I will accommodate your thoughts , they seem naive enough -

Hey Doc, confusing Sabbath forum with church, don't you. I am sure people in church will be delighted when you start preaching to them about Seventh Star.


Well, I believe that every human being deserves to listen to the Black Sabbath shows they want to, even Ronn aka you.

You are saying this:

and this at the same time:

So William was right and wrong at the same time: there are true female Sabbath fans and there are not? Well, I guess logical consistency is just something that got spilled on the floor when you and a few others here were supposed to drink from it as kids.

Love Seventh Star!

Sure , no problem , I'm everyone ....

Honey , if you saw my Sabbath contents and assemblage you would fall down , to be fair so would Iommi.

Logic would tell a toddler by reading my post , William was right in presentation ..... yet , get this - wrong in theory ,,,,,, the total flip side of yourself .... make sense for ya now.


@TYR , a thought to your "random thought thread" comment and me having to elaborate on my simple thoughts here .... are perfect examples of , like you said - "the world has gone mad" ,,,, but isn't fun trying to help it


peace n love all

[Sabbabbath]

Faith Mustard Eternal Christ Jesus Glorified God Jesus.

Hey Doc, confusing Sabbath forum with church, don't you. I am sure people in church will be delighted when you start preaching to them about Seventh Star.

@RONN , Excellent shows she hooked you up with ..... Enjoy! @LINDA , thanks for hooking up Ronn , very Kool

Well, I believe that every human being deserves to listen to the Black Sabbath shows they want to, even Ronn aka you.

You are saying this:

@WILLIAM ..... I must say , I'm in total disagreement with everyone who finds you at fault here .... I personally with a simple read , see that you were true , honest and dealt with what was being thrown at you .... Kudos!

and this at the same time:

was with 9 SABBATH FANS (including myself) today breaking down TYR and 13 ,,,, 2 were Lady's , do the math

So William was right and wrong at the same time: there are true female Sabbath fans and there are not? Well, I guess logical consistency is just something that got spilled on the floor when you and a few others here were supposed to drink from it as kids.

[turch118]

My good brother Turch , Faith the size of a Mustard Seed is Eternal in Christ Jesus , I know you know this .... with that being said , I'm so sorry everything came to this in this thread at this time with our BSO family ,,,, far more important than that is the fact that your Mom is in a Glorified Body smiling at the face of God and dancing with Jesus.



EDIT - new Super Bowl commercial ..... nice! http://ultimateclassicrock.com/black...an-super-bowl/

Thank you Doc. And cool commercial.

[BACK TO EDEN]

William, how can I be so foolish to think I could stand up to you. My neural pathways are as strong as they will ever be and maybe I should call Doc about my mustard-seed soul. And by the way, my mother is dead you dick.

My good brother Turch , Faith the size of a Mustard Seed is Eternal in Christ Jesus , I know you know this .... with that being said , I'm so sorry everything came to this in this thread at this time with our BSO family ,,,, far more important than that is the fact that your Mom is in a Glorified Body smiling at the face of God and dancing with Jesus.


@TYR ,

@RONN , Excellent shows she hooked you up with ..... Enjoy!

@OID , the good ole days of "13"! .... forum was at its family peak ..... and thank you!

@SABMAN , your intelligence is a blessing on these boards ..... and thank you!

@HISTORIAN , sorry it went that way .... what a masterpiece the "Star" is

@WILLIAM , please know along with Sweet and Vyn , Turch is one of the nicest guys on these boards ..... AND , I must say , I'm in total disagreement with everyone who finds you at fault here .... I personally with a simple read , see that you were true , honest and dealt with what was being thrown at you .... Kudos!

@LINDA , thanks for hooking up Ronn , very Kool

@JACK , where ever I BTE did you wrong , I'm very sorry for it , and I truly have no idea when I did it brother , if I could take it back I would.


Hey , side note , back on topic .... was with 9 SABBATH FANS (including myself) today breaking down TYR and 13 ,,,, 2 were Lady's , do the math



EDIT - new Super Bowl commercial ..... nice! http://ultimateclassicrock.com/black...an-super-bowl/