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Black Sabbath (The Rebel)

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    So it is known that in the late '60s our beloved band, Black Sabbath went by the name "Earth."

    In 2003, an anonymous source leaked recordings of Black Sabbath to a torrenting website. These demos included "The Rebel", "When I Came Down", and an Unknown Jam (Which has been argued as a fake). I will leak all of these recordings below.

    The Rebel was written by Norman Haines and later covered by the band Mott the Hoople. The version of the song is more published and sounds finalized. What are your initial thoughts, comparing the two?

    Mott The Hoople: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL4sQhYr6Js
    Black Sabbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDW5BcvbA-I
    When I Came Down (Black Sabbath): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHPlCs4l3Aw
    When I Came Down (The Norman Haines Band): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4K4akqMDeo
    Unknown Earth Jam (Any info on it, I've heard its real and I've heard it is fake) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU2YoNnT1BY

  • #2
    I love threads like this. Love all these tunes


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    • #3
      I thought the Rebel was a Sabbath song
      Do you hear the thunder raging in the sky?
      Premonition of a shattered world thatís gonna die.
      In the age of reason, how do we survive?
      The protocols of evil ravaging so many lives?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by LouiST View Post
        I thought the Rebel was a Sabbath song
        Same.

        Ted

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        • #5
          Interesting. Norman Haines didn't release "When I Came Down" until the 1971 album Den Of Inquity. And if the description for Mott The Hoople's version of "The Rebel" is true, then that wasn't recorded until 1972.

          Seems like Norman Haines was from Birmingham, England, and he played in a band called Locomotive.
          https://www.allmusic.com/artist/norm...s-mn0001008814

          Guess who else was in Locomotive? Jim Simpson, the manager of Black Sabbath. There's also this excerpt, "Haines left the group in 1969, reportedly turning down an offer to join Black Sabbath and eventually forming the Norman Haines Band."
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotive_(band)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BlackSabbathOddities View Post
            So it is known that in the late '60s our beloved band, Black Sabbath went by the name "Earth."

            In 2003, an anonymous source leaked recordings of Black Sabbath to a torrenting website. These demos included "The Rebel", "When I Came Down", and an Unknown Jam (Which has been argued as a fake). I will leak all of these recordings below.

            The Rebel was written by Norman Haines and later covered by the band Mott the Hoople. The version of the song is more published and sounds finalized. What are your initial thoughts, comparing the two?

            Mott The Hoople: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL4sQhYr6Js
            Black Sabbath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDW5BcvbA-I
            When I Came Down (Black Sabbath): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHPlCs4l3Aw
            When I Came Down (The Norman Haines Band): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4K4akqMDeo
            Unknown Earth Jam (Any info on it, I've heard its real and I've heard it is fake) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU2YoNnT1BY
            The Rebel was not written by Norman Haines, it was written by Cyril and Dora Ward (Charles Ward) here is the link:
            https://www.black-sabbath.com/vb/sho...l=1#post440780
            "Without Black Sabbath there never would have been an Ozzy, and without Ozzy there never would have been a Black Sabbath"
            "If there ever was a band whose voice is so significant and distinct, that band is Black Sabbath and the voice is Ozzy Osbourne"
            ________________________________________OzzyIsDio_ (YoY)

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