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I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

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  • I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

    ok i have never heard any songs post dio era sabbath(my fave era) but i want to know what kind of vocals martin has(is his voice high and screetchy or low and bassy)i was looking at the track listing to headless cross and the tracks sounded really cool. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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  • #2
    Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

    His voice is neither-- actually it is very bluesy, but still has a loud metal edge. It's soft yet hard-- it's really impossible to describe. Possibly why he is my all-time favorite singer.

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    • #3
      Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

      "Headless Cross" is quite good, but my recommendation is to start with either "The Eternal Idol" or "Cross Purposes" and go from there. Lots of underrated material on all five Martin era studio releases.

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      • #4
        Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

        Tony Martin's voice sort of changes from Tyr to Cross Purposes. From Eternal Idol, Headless Cross, and Tyr, his voice is fairly high (with a bluesy edge, and a slight undertone to it). He really has a fantastic voice, although it is more limited than Dio's. From Cross Purposes to Forbidden, his voice is a bit deeper and harder, which could be more thanks to production changes. This is more in Forbidden, by the way...his voice, at times, sounded really hard and forced durin' that album.

        That is, however, the most underproduced album Black Sabbath has probably ever made, though, so that's not sayin' much. By all accounts from Joe, Tony Martin's voice was extremely good durin' the subsequent tour.

        My advice is, as those who persuaded me to give the after-Ozzy era a try in the first place (on the Bill Ward forums, quite a while back), give it a whirl. ^ ^ Glenn Hughes and Ian Gillan are also fantastic singers, with Hughes having a majorly 80's bluesy voice, and Gillan havin' some GREAT range! Give them a listen, too. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I suggest picking up the Born Again, Seventh Star, Eternal Idol, Tyr, and Cross Purposes albums for a test drive of the vocalists. If you like those, then go for the Headless Cross and Forbidden albums.

        Warning: Seventh Star and Forbidden are two EXTREMELY different albums! Seventh Star for unbelieveably obvious reasons, and Forbidden because it's really a filler and underproduced album. They aren't bad, however. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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        • #5
          Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

          Generally, I'd say his voice is much more like Dio's than Ozzy's.
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          • #6
            Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

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            Generally, I'd say his voice is much more like Dio's than Ozzy's.

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            Agreed, only his voice is less...Dioish. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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            • #7
              Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

              Dioish...I like it.
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              Last edited by Embryo; 01-24-2011, 02:33 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

                Well he is not up to par with Dio.But my favs are the cross purposes and the Eternal Idol.

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                • #9
                  Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any hel

                  Tyr and Eternal Idol.

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                  • #10
                    Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any hel

                    I would start with Headless Cross or Tyr, as not only are those the best Martin releases but the easiest to start out with in terms of the overall style and his voice, which in those two albums he was at top form.

                    Out here in the USA, at least in the Chicago area, you can find these discs in some Circuit City or Best Buy stores for under 7 dollars.

                    Cross Purposes is GREAT, tho I would not start out with that. I would also not start out with Forbidden. Eternal Idol -- see Cross Purposes, but not a good starting point.

                    Get Headless Cross or Tyr.

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                    • #11
                      Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any hel

                      I would certainly start with Cross Purposes its a fantastic album though many people have a start with Headless Cross....
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                      • #12
                        Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

                        One of the many CDs out there titled "Best of Black Sabbath" is cheap 10-track compilation of songs from 4 of the 5 Tony Martin albums. So if you're looking for a Tony Martin-era CD to start with, I'd suggest this one. Amazon.com has it listed, but not in stock.

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                        • #13
                          Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

                          Well if we're going to talk compilation albums, I'd say "Sabbath Stones" is superior to the afforementioned due to song choices and arrangement, as well as remastering. It's easy to find used for under $10 if you are so inclined. It's almost entirely Martin stuff.

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                          • #14
                            Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any help???

                            Pick up a copy of TYR. You won't be sorry.

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                            • #15
                              Re: I want to get into tony martin era sabbath any hel

                              All of the Martin albums have good songs. My personal opinion is that Eternal Idol is the most solid album first track to last track of all the Martin era albums. But if you want a listing from me..

                              Eternal Idol
                              Tyr
                              Headless Cross
                              Cross Purposes
                              Forbidden

                              You might want to try the 1996 Greatest Hits album "The Sabbath Stones". Hits all the albums, plus a track from Seventh Star and Born Again, too. It was never released in the States, though. I see someone else recommended it over the unofficial Greatest Hits thing that was also linked to. I agree with this assessement.
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