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    Black Sabbath's Tony Iommi says that they planning to release a box set celebrating the often overlooked Tony Martin era of the band and may even look back at Ian Gillan's short stint in the group.

    Iommi spoke with Full Metal Jackie to discuss the new box set celebrating Ronnie James Dio's original era in Sabbath and the "Heaven and Hell" and "Mob Rules" albums.

    Tony revealed during the chat that they are looking at box sets for other eras of the band including when they were fronted by Tony Martin and Deep Purple frontman Ian Gillan.

    He shared the news after he was asked about the recently leaked song from the Dio "Heaven and Hell" era called "Slapback". Tony was asked if the song will ever be properly released. He responded, "That's a bit of a problem for us at the moment.

    "That has got released without any of our knowledge and [it's] not particularly a good thing. There was stuff floating around that [late Sabbath keyboardist] Geoff Nicholls had and he wasn't on that. It was before Geoff Nicholls came with us.

    "His stepson [Gary Rees, executor of the estate] suddenly just put the stuff out, which was bit wrong really. There's no plans at the moment, but I'm going to go through... I've got a lot of lots and lots and lots of recordings of stuff we've done in the past that's never seen the light of day. I'd like to sort some of that out and put that on some of the albums.

    "We are gradually going through these box sets and then there will be a Tony Martin [era] box set at some point coming out and stuff with Ian Gillan maybe. So, yes, there'll be other songs added, but it's never been used for anything."

    In a follow-up question Tony was asked about the "Forbidden" album and news that there was a remix session for the record. He said, "We will do that once we get to the Tony Martin period. At the moment we're doing the Dio stuff, which I've really been looking forward to [because that era] really pleases the fans.

    "It's unfortunate that over the years Tony Martin has got buried in all this Ozzy and Dio stuff and everything. There will be a period now where we'll be able to release the box set with the Tony Martin albums with some good outtakes as well. I've already mixed [it] here at home, so that's all ready to go, but we have to wait until the time is right. We can't put all these things out together - it would cause confusion.

    "To be honest, I've got boxes and boxes of stuff that's probably never been heard. Even I can't remember it all, it's just a matter of rolling through it and finding it all - Oh, there's another song we did with Dio or Tony Martin or Ozzy or whatever."




  • #2
    if iommi has all this stuff, its a real shame the Heaven and Hell deluxe edition did not have anything new, but i look forward to see what is next. I think this slapback thing showed him that we want this stuff but it rubbed him the wrong way.

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    • #3
      I'm all for deluxe editions and box sets, as long as there's some new stuff on them. Unreleased stuff. And I don't just mean live stuff or demos of songs we already have in a million different incarnations. Otherwise, what's the point? Just release the albums again, as is.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by sellingmysoul View Post

        Black Sabbath's Tony Iommi says that they planning to release a box set celebrating the often overlooked Tony Martin era of the band and may even look back at Ian Gillan's short stint in the group.

        Iommi spoke with Full Metal Jackie to discuss the new box set celebrating Ronnie James Dio's original era in Sabbath and the "Heaven and Hell" and "Mob Rules" albums.

        Tony revealed during the chat that they are looking at box sets for other eras of the band including when they were fronted by Tony Martin and Deep Purple frontman Ian Gillan.

        He shared the news after he was asked about the recently leaked song from the Dio "Heaven and Hell" era called "Slapback". Tony was asked if the song will ever be properly released. He responded, "That's a bit of a problem for us at the moment.

        "That has got released without any of our knowledge and [it's] not particularly a good thing. There was stuff floating around that [late Sabbath keyboardist] Geoff Nicholls had and he wasn't on that. It was before Geoff Nicholls came with us.

        "His stepson [Gary Rees, executor of the estate] suddenly just put the stuff out, which was bit wrong really. There's no plans at the moment, but I'm going to go through... I've got a lot of lots and lots and lots of recordings of stuff we've done in the past that's never seen the light of day. I'd like to sort some of that out and put that on some of the albums.

        "We are gradually going through these box sets and then there will be a Tony Martin [era] box set at some point coming out and stuff with Ian Gillan maybe. So, yes, there'll be other songs added, but it's never been used for anything."

        In a follow-up question Tony was asked about the "Forbidden" album and news that there was a remix session for the record. He said, "We will do that once we get to the Tony Martin period. At the moment we're doing the Dio stuff, which I've really been looking forward to [because that era] really pleases the fans.

        "It's unfortunate that over the years Tony Martin has got buried in all this Ozzy and Dio stuff and everything. There will be a period now where we'll be able to release the box set with the Tony Martin albums with some good outtakes as well. I've already mixed [it] here at home, so that's all ready to go, but we have to wait until the time is right. We can't put all these things out together - it would cause confusion.

        "To be honest, I've got boxes and boxes of stuff that's probably never been heard. Even I can't remember it all, it's just a matter of rolling through it and finding it all - Oh, there's another song we did with Dio or Tony Martin or Ozzy or whatever."


        I've been hoping for a Martin/Sabbath box set for the longest time and he deserves it the most out of any of the eras. Also would be excited for a Gillan/Sabbath box set and all the unreleased material from the Born Again sessions.

        Thanks for the heads up Sellingmysoul.
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        • #5
          Thanks for the info. and link, sellingmysoul. So a TM Era box and possibly even the inclusion of IG Era material within the same appears to be in the cards... Up until now, I/we have had the impression that the TM albums would be re-released as individual Deluxe Editions. Regarding Forbidden, it's previously been reported that the remix was completed and now it appears the album will be included in a TM box set, which leaves the question of whether it (and maybe the other albums) will also be released individually at some point.

          Then there's Tony's remarks regarding the recent YouTube 'release' of Slapback - although he sort of throws cold water on the idea of an official release of the song due to it having been leaked without Sabbath's knowledge/consent, he then states that 'there's no plans at the moment' (to release it) and reiterates that he has a large volume of material to go through from different eras of the Group. So I interpret that as leaving a glimmer of hope that Slapback *might* eventually see the light of day in an official capacity in some form.

          We now need to hope that Tony can find the time to sort through and compile enough releasable material to make it worthwhile enough to move forward with further reissue projects. Keeping in mind that we're still dealing with Covid for we don't know how much longer and the fact that Tony is in his 70's now and can't or doesn't want to spend all of his time on reissues, I think we'll need to be patient.

          Ted
          Last edited by Ted Sallis; 03-30-2021, 12:06 PM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Ted Sallis View Post
            Thanks for the info. and link, sellingmysoul. So a TM Era box and possibly even the inclusion of IG Era material within the same appears to be in the cards... Up until now, I/we have had the impression that the TM albums would be re-released as individual Deluxe Editions. Regarding Forbidden, it's previously been reported that the remix was completed and now it appears the album will be included in a TM box set, which leaves the question of whether it (and maybe the other albums) will also be released individually at some point.

            Then there's Tony's remarks regarding the recent YouTube 'release' of Slapback - although he sort of throws cold water on the idea of an official release of the song due to it having been leaked without Sabbath's knowledge/consent, he then states that 'there's no plans at the moment' (to release it) and reiterates that he has a large volume of material to go through from different eras of the Group. So I interpret that as leaving a glimmer of hope that Slapback *might* eventually see the light of day in an official capacity in some form.

            We now need to hope that Tony can find the time to sort through and compile enough releasable material to make it worthwhile enough to move forward with further reissue projects. Keeping in mind that we're still dealing with Covid for we don't know how much longer and the fact that Tony is in his 70's now and can't or doesn't want to spend all of his time on reissues, I think we'll need to be patient.

            Ted
            I’ve hoped for the longest time we get a box set with all the Martin/Sabbath albums plus extras like a coffee table book and the Dehumanizer Martin sessions included in the box with all the Japanese bonus tracks included with a couple of extra new Martin /Sabbath songs included, and I’m hoping for a CD and LP Box sets so I can get them both, that goes for the Born Again box set, would especially love that one, Don’t know why he’s leaving out the 7th Star album as a box set.
            Last edited by OzzyIsDio; 04-01-2021, 06:09 AM. Reason: Typo
            "Without Black Sabbath there never would have been an Ozzy, and without Ozzy there never would have been a Black Sabbath"
            "If there ever was a band whose voice is so significant and distinct, that band is Black Sabbath and the voice is Ozzy Osbourne"
            ________Sabbath Forever, Forever Sabbath!______OzzyIsDio_ (YoY)

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            • #7
              I would love a 7th Star box set.

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              • #8
                Thought they are gonna rerelease them separately.
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                Premonition of a shattered world thatís gonna die.
                In the age of reason, how do we survive?
                The protocols of evil ravaging so many lives?

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                • #9
                  As someone who has all of the original albums on CD, and a few deluxe additions, if Tony releases the Martin era in deluxe editions I would hope they have at least an album of b- sides or bonus unused tracks. Or maybe a few new songs with Martin. But at the rate Tony does stuff now, I wouldn't hold your breath.

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                  • #10
                    I love the Martin era, any rarities or unreleased stuff we could get would be awesome.

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                    • #11
                      Separate Duper Deluxe Box-sets would be more interesting than something encompassing a whole era like PF's The Later Years (yes, Later, not Early, because they won't put that much stuff anyway, or the price will be prohibitive).

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                      • #12
                        The Tony Martin material has been neglected for so many years. This news is excellent, although considering the track record, I'm really not holding my breath. Remember the 'Forbidden' remix/remaster that was supposed to be in the pipeline? That was years ago now.

                        Hopefully I'm wrong, because I'd love a Tony Martin box set. It'd be brilliant.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Requiem777 View Post
                          The Tony Martin material has been neglected for so many years. This news is excellent, although considering the track record, I'm really not holding my breath. Remember the 'Forbidden' remix/remaster that was supposed to be in the pipeline? That was years ago now.

                          Hopefully I'm wrong, because I'd love a Tony Martin box set. It'd be brilliant.
                          That's what I keep hoping for a Martin/Sabbath boxset in both Vinyl and CD formats.
                          "Without Black Sabbath there never would have been an Ozzy, and without Ozzy there never would have been a Black Sabbath"
                          "If there ever was a band whose voice is so significant and distinct, that band is Black Sabbath and the voice is Ozzy Osbourne"
                          ________Sabbath Forever, Forever Sabbath!______OzzyIsDio_ (YoY)

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                          • #14
                            I wouldn't hold my breath for this release.

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                            • #15
                              I'm not really a vinyl collector, but that would be awesome.

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