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  • -E5150 StarWanderer-
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    Originally posted by H&H View Post
    I'm with ya on Ericcson. I wanted him to go. However with the signing of Mike Commodore and Ian White, I think Ericsson now has time to perfect his craft on the third D pairing. I gotta believe Commodore and Ericsson will be the third pairing, with Lidstrom and White on the 1st, and Stuart and Kronwall on the 2nd. (Pure Speculation on my part)

    D-men take longer to develop, and with more "seasoning" Ericsson has a shot at getting better. The WIngs did overpay for him IMO.

    I also agree, it is time for a new back-up. I love Osgood and thank him for all he has done over the years for the Wings, but with only 22 games in 2 seasons, its time to get a back-up that will lighten the regular season load on Howard.
    Yeah, the White and Commodore signings were very positive, especially the White one. I think he can bring a lot to the team: he's a fine puck mover, shoots from the right (and does it well) and on top of that is good enough defensively, He's not the offensive weapon Rafalski was, but is much better on his own end. Due to the injuries Raffy had become a hazard on the defensive zone, although the defense was never his speciality any way. Commodore brings the much needed toughness and grit to the defense.

    I'm also glad that they managed to keep Eaves, I think he's the perfect third liner and can also stunt in the top lines if needed. Miller's extension homever, I don't see any use in it. Sure he brings depth to the offense and is reliable. But Mursak and Emmerton would do that AND have potential to be more than a fourth liner, a quality Miller doesn't have.

    But I still think that the deal Big-E got is abysmal. Grossly overpaid, and on top of that he eats Kindl's and Commodore's ice time, who are both better than Ericcson. And Kindl has more upside, and his developement will slow down with the IT he will get now. I think Kindl would be a potential choice for the second PP unit with Kronwall, but I bet that Babcock plays Ericcson on PP. I think the organisation is one of the best in sports, but Holland and Babs can be bit stubborn with their moves, The defensive pairing should be the following:

    White - Lidström
    Stuart - Kronwall
    Commodore - Kindl
    Ericcson

    But I know that Commodore and Kindl will take turns in the third pairing and Ericcson is solidified in the Top 6. That's the kind of stubborness in Babs I was talking about: he refuses to make changes in the lines even if some players under perform seriously (Ericsson last year) and other are playing better than their IT would indicate (Kindl). And sometimes it seems that lines are written in stone even if they don't really click. Babs is a great coach, but during the last two years he hasn't been aggressive enough.

    And I still have hopes that they sign a winger with the gift of racking up goals. Atleast Holland says they are looking for a one: http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.ph...up_goaltender/

    Sadly he also states that if they can't sign/trade a back-up goalie, they're happy with Ozzie. Come on, Hasek is a free agent, why no sign him? But seriously, he's been great in the Czech elite league (voted as the MVP) and isn't injury prone like Osgood.

    Updated roster I'd like to see:

    Hudler/Sniper via trade - Datsyuk - Cleary
    Filppula/Zetterberg - Zetterberg/Filppula - Franzen
    Bertuzzi - Helm - Eaves (Bertuzzi's slowness would be compensated by Helm's and Eaves' speed)
    Holmström - Abdelkader - Mursak (Abdelkader would fit better on the wing, but doing that you would have to move Emmerton or Miller to the centre position leaving either Homer or Mursak out, and I think Mursak is the most potential of the lot and Homer, who's deadweight five on five, is essential on PP)
    Emmerton, Miller

    Kronwall - Lidström
    White - Stuart
    Commodore - Kindl
    Ericsson

    Howard
    X

    I'd also make special PP units:

    Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Homer
    White - Lidström

    Hudler/That sniper - Filppula - Franzen
    Kindl - Kronwall

    EDIT: Any thoughts on the deal Leino got from Sabres? Being one of my favorite players, I think it's wonderful that he get's a shot at being a leader in the top lines as a center, which is his prefered position (played as a center here in Finland with the exception of his last year here). I expect him to amass 70+ points with Vanek, Ennis or Pominvell sniping from his passes. And Sabres fans are in for some beauty of a dangles and strong puck posession (and for hazardous turn-overs for that matter, but taking risks always leads to mistakes ).
    Last edited by -E5150 StarWanderer-; 07-06-2011, 05:15 AM.

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  • H&H
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    I'm with ya on Ericcson. I wanted him to go. However with the signing of Mike Commodore and Ian White, I think Ericsson now has time to perfect his craft on the third D pairing. I gotta believe Commodore and Ericsson will be the third pairing, with Lidstrom and White on the 1st, and Stuart and Kronwall on the 2nd. (Pure Speculation on my part)

    D-men take longer to develop, and with more "seasoning" Ericsson has a shot at getting better. The WIngs did overpay for him IMO.

    I also agree, it is time for a new back-up. I love Osgood and thank him for all he has done over the years for the Wings, but with only 22 games in 2 seasons, its time to get a back-up that will lighten the regular season load on Howard.
    Last edited by H&H; 07-03-2011, 09:32 AM.

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  • -E5150 StarWanderer-
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    July 1st is only one day away, and the UFA signing frenzy will begin. This year's UFA market isn't exactly overwhelming, but there's lots of interesting players available: Ehroff (Buffalo has his negotiaton rights for now), J. Jokinen, Bogosian, Frolik, Richards, Kaberle, Vokoun, Arnott etc. etc.

    Now that Rafalski was forced to retire, I'm eagerly waiting Holland's and Red Wings' next move. There has been negotiatons with Jonathan Ericsson for a contract extension, but I'm not thrilled if they reach an agreeement. Maybe the only UFA D I'd like to see join the team is Ehroff, he could very well replace Raffy. But on the other hand his caphit will probably be over 5 million and he want's multi-year contract, so I'm not sure if he's what we need. An ideal deal would be a trade for a TOP 4 D-man (Green, Weber, Doughty ) for Hudler and draft picks. There's been rumours that Filppula is available for a trade also, but I really hope that won't happen - unless we get some really good players in return. Flip is such a solid and versatile two-way player, and I think he has the potential to produce 60+ points. The next season could well see his breakthrough from an offensive stand point.

    I think the team also needs a good winger, preferably one that can score. Jagr has been linked to numerous teams, including Red Wings, but it looks like he's signing with Pens. Which makes sense, since he spent his best years in Pittsburgh. If we lose Jagr, I'd go after Jokinen. He has had two great years with 'Canes, and imagine what he could do with Datsyuk or Zetterberg centering him. Another interesting UFA winger is Simon Gagne.

    I also hope that they manage to keep Eaves in Detroit. He's one of those really versatile players with a serious upside.

    Here's a roster of pure specualtion that I think would be very competetive:

    Leino/Gagne/Hudler - Datsyuk - Holmström
    Filppula - Zetterberg - Franzen
    Cleary - Helm - Eaves
    Jan Mursak - Abdelkader - Bertuzzi
    Cory Emmeron

    Lidström - Kronwall
    Stuart - Codename "good UFA"/an acquisiton through a trade
    Kindl - Doug Janik/cheap yet solid UFA

    Howard
    Cheap back-up goalie who can play up to 30+ games, NOT Osgood or MacDonald

    EDIT: Just found out that Jokinen signed a 3-year contract with 'Canes, such a shame. But I also remebered that former Red Wing Ville Leino will be an UFA tomorrow. Although I don't see him joining Detroit, I'd be extatic if it would happen. Leino is one of my absolute favorite players, has a good season behind him and has the potential to rack up 70+ points. The problem is that he left Detroit with bad feelings, and that he's the very definition of a playmaker. And Red Wings could use a sniping specialist

    EDIT 2: Holland has officially lost it. Given I was against resigning Ericsson in the first place, but doing it with a three year contract for 9.75M is OUTRAGEOUS. That guy isn't worth 2M per year if you ask me.

    What's that? Is that the call of a first round exit?
    Last edited by -E5150 StarWanderer-; 07-01-2011, 05:30 AM.

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  • -E5150 StarWanderer-
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    Originally posted by DISCMAN1969 View Post
    So how about those trades by the Flyers? To me it seems pretty crazy to trade your 2 best players. I know they had to dump a lot of money to sign Bryzgalov, but to trade those 2? As I said before I have just got back into Hockey so I am not real familiar with the players they are getting in return. To me it seems like too big of a risk. However their biggest problem in the Playoffs was goaltending and Bryzgalov could be the answer. I just hope he delivers.
    I think the biggest problem with Richards and Carter was that they were hard partiers. And I've heard that Carter wasn't exactly good for the team chemistry.

    Considering how broad Flyers' material, especially in the center department, I actually think that this was a good trade for them. They got rid of the bad blood in the team, got two very potential players (Voracek and Schenn) and an established power forward + trade picks for next year and released some cap space to sing Bryzgalov and maybe Leino too.

    And I'd argue that Giroux, Pronger, Briere and Timonen (and JVR in the future) are better and more important players for Flyers. And getting a prospect of Schen's caliber is a steal for a team who won't be picking in the beginning of the draft for the next years.

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  • H&H
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    A buddy of mine is a huge Flyers fan. He called me and we chatted about the trades. I was in shock. My thoughts exactly Discman, how do you trade your 2 best players. Bryz is an awesome goalie, but IMO they have given up way too much to land him. Goalie issues were big for the Flyer in the playoffs, that issue is solved, now they are in need of scoring. Give to get, but I just dont understand giving so much.

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  • DISCMAN1969
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    So how about those trades by the Flyers? To me it seems pretty crazy to trade your 2 best players. I know they had to dump a lot of money to sign Bryzgalov, but to trade those 2? As I said before I have just got back into Hockey so I am not real familiar with the players they are getting in return. To me it seems like too big of a risk. However their biggest problem in the Playoffs was goaltending and Bryzgalov could be the answer. I just hope he delivers.

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  • Franklin
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    Thank you to my dad for sharing his love of hockey with me and exposing me to the greats like Bobby Orr, Phil Esposito, Stan Mikita, Bobby Hull, Tony Esposito and Gerry Cheevers. I'm sure we watched some of the Stanley Cup playoffs together in 1970 when I was 6 years old and I was happy to pay it forward this year with my own 6 year old son. My dad died in January 1973 when I was 9 years old. The Bruins missed you dad, and so did I.

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  • fondula
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    Originally posted by Axe fiend View Post
    Their fans are an embarrassment, Even South Beach has enough class not to act like this. they need to get a fucking life, makes me glad that Boston won.
    I was watching, I thought they were actually cheering for a lot of Boston players, any only noticed boos for one man - Gary Bettman. They booed him when he started talking, and when he presented both trophies, but went quiet as soon as he handed each trophy to someone and stepped aside.
    I don't like the Bruins, or some of their guys like Chara, but I watched them pass the cup around and even if you hate a guy you can't take away his moment or help but feel some of what they're feeling when they explode with excitement like a ten-year-old kid. It made me feel old when they talked about how old Tim Thomas is and I am a year older.

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  • Axe fiend
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    Originally posted by Franklin View Post
    What cheesy fans in Vancouver! Let's man up and admit your team got worked by a better team and quit with the booing.
    Their fans are an embarrassment, Even South Beach has enough class not to act like this. they need to get a fucking life, makes me glad that Boston won.

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  • H&H
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    Congratulations to the Boston Bruins on winning the 2011 Stanley Cup!

    Boo to Vancouver fans for rioting and destroying their city. Not to mention the booing in the arena (as Frank already mentioned). SHow some class and clap for the other team. They busted their tails, and beat you in your rink. The only team to win an away game this series.

    Big props out to Tim Thomas on winning the Conn Smyth Trophy (MVP). He played an outstanding series, as well as the entire playoff run. Good to see a local boy win it all, not to mention the trial and tribulations for TT to get the NHL, let alone win the Cup.

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  • Franklin
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    We want the CUP!
    We want the CUP!
    We want the CUP!

    ---------- Post added at 05:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:45 PM ----------

    3-zip lead after two periods. I like Boston's chances. Given that Vancouver is averaging about 1 goal per game, it seems unlikely they would muster 4 goals in one period. On the other hand, anything can happen. That's why I'll be watching.

    ---------- Post added at 06:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:48 PM ----------

    What cheesy fans in Vancouver! Let's man up and admit your team got worked by a better team and quit with the booing.

    ---------- Post added at 07:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:56 PM ----------

    Biggest egg? LeBron vs. the Mavericks or Sedin brothers vs. the Bruins?
    Last edited by Franklin; 06-15-2011, 08:53 PM.

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  • SYMPTOMS of EVILWOMEN
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    Boston all the way!

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  • DISCMAN1969
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    If Boston wins it is a no brainer Thomas wins the award. Not sure anyone on Vancouver really played lights out, so not sure who would get it if they win.

    I say Boston wins it 2 to 1 in OT!

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  • fondula
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    I feel that this is the game where the Canucks light it up. Too many guns have been quiet for too long. Thomas has been amazing, but if they manage to get a chance to use speed and/or trick him into wandering off once or twice early, it will be party time in Vancouver. Despite the score in game six, the Canucks' skaters looked decent and if Boston gets behind they won't be able to just sit all their guys in the middle of the defensive zone. Bobby Lou can't have yet another bad game, can he?
    The advantage of playing at home (besides the crowd) is being able to match lines, and I think that will and has made a big difference in this series and will be the difference tonight.
    As far as Conn Smythe goes, well I don't know.... if it's the Bruins it will be Tim Thomas. If it's the Canucks..... I dunno, they might just pick the leading scorer from the Canucks (H. Sedin?), Luongo who has 4 shutouts in the playoffs despite 3 crappy games in the final, or whoever scores the winning goal tonight. It could still be Thomas but it's a bitter pill to take that trophy into the losing dressing room, and probably not even appropriate.

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  • The Rules Mob
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    Originally posted by H&H View Post
    1. Can the Bruin beat the Canucks at home, or is this a Home team series, and will Vancouver prevail and win the Cup?

    2. Win or lose, Tim Thomas should win the Conn Smyth? What are your opinions?
    I, of course, would love to answer yes to 1. But the reality is the Bruins haven't beaten the Canucks at Rogers yet, and game 5 would have seemed like a logical game for them to have done so. I think we'll know 5 minutes into the game if the Bruins have decided to bring Boston north with them. If they do, then yes.

    As for 2, who else would even make sense? Hannah Montana Sedin (my son coined that, I can't take credit)? Borat the goalie? Tooth Fairy Burrows? I think Timmay has been far and away the player without whom their team's season would have ended long ago.

    Win or lose, the Bs have made us proud. I won't lose any respect for them if they can't do it, but I can't stomach the thought of the classless Canucks celebrating in front of them.

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