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  • Anyone else miss Savatage?

    Savatage Live in Tilberg 2002

    "When The Crowds Are Gone"


    --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNi2cq8gNa0
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  • #2
    Well Savatage is one hell of a band very underrated, its a project that Oliva bros conceived and its really true that I miss their music very much. Its been quite a while I have listen to their music and the thread you have posted has forced me to again listen to their stuff.
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    • #3
      I've always liked them as well. Haven't really listened to them much in recent years though. In an interview a few years ago John Oliva did say he wants to do one more Savatage album and then call it quits for the band. But there last one came out 8 years ago so who knows if it'll ever happen. Plus, with Trans Siberian Orchestra getting as popular as they have he's commited to that every year. I'm still surprised how popular that has got I bet the band never thought that would happen.

      Wasn't really a fan of anything before HOTMK. It was just too cheesy for me I guess but from Gutter Ballet on they really developed their own unique sound that set them apart from other bands. I do hope they do one more album and tour as Savatage.
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      When you ask the reason why
      They just tell you that you're on your own
      Fill your head all full of lies

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      • #4
        I listen to Hall Of The Mountain king alot.
        Jon Olivia has a solo project.
        And Chris Caffer.
        But none of the albums was as good as Hall Of The Mountain King.
        I have all the early stuff.
        But I did not buy anything after Gutter Ballet.

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        • #5
          Here are more high quality videos of Savatage performing live in 2002 which was the last year they toured :

          Agony And Ecstasy/Believe (Live Greece 2002)

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIe9rTEpMuw

          Morphine Child (Live Greece 2002)

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLJASDIUOsQ

          All That I Bleed (live Greece 2002)

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9sZkVlnkH4

          Dead Winter Dead/Edge Of Thorns (live Wacken 2002)

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eisZL2b5Yc
          Last edited by sandman616; 08-23-2009, 12:51 PM.
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          • #6
            I failed to mention in my first post that I forgot how awesome of a song "When The Crowds Are Gone" truely is.
            Nobody will ever let you know
            When you ask the reason why
            They just tell you that you're on your own
            Fill your head all full of lies

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            • #7
              I blast "Ghost in the Ruins" weekly. It freaks people in traffic playing Rap.

              They make my top 10 bands list and Chris my top 5 guitarists list.

              But a good size catalog to pick from plus John's later stuff.

              Gone yes. Forgotten: not hardly

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              • #8
                Chris is a great guitarist I love Legions.
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                • #9
                  "Strange Wings" with Ray Gillen from a gig in Anaheim in 1990 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DLhi1v7NZA

                  And right after that, Jon Oliva went on drums and Ray took the vocals for an awesome cover of Zeppelin's "Rock'n'Roll" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5xC7GgSCwc

                  Savatage sure was a great band
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                  • #10
                    A great band, Fight For The Rock aside, and that they ended up seeming to want to be Queensryche. One of the earliest US bands able to hold its own with all the great stuff coming out of the UK, Europe and Canada.

                    Absolutely essential:
                    The Dungeons Are Calling
                    Sirens
                    Hall Of The Mountain King (which I bought the same day as Candlemass' Nightfall)

                    Worth a listen:
                    Power Of The Night

                    Criss Oliva RIP.

                    Funnily enough, I'd often thought that Jon Oliva would have done well in Black Sabbath.
                    He is not here. He has risen!

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                    • #11
                      "Ghost in the Ruins" gives a clue what concerts were like. Much more so than studio releases and much better than the Japan CD (which lacked Chris).

                      Since that came out, I play it 10 to 1 of the studio stuff. It's for serious volume. John's voice is top notch, a screamer to match Halford, Wayne, or anyone else.

                      I remember when Sirens released with it's original 2 color cover as an LP. We were nuts for it here. Also I agree "Hall" is probably the best "peak" studio release.

                      And I think some of John's stuff since Savatage is excellent.

                      Another one who isn't on idiot magazine lists of great vocalists (but neither is Chris for guitarists).

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                      • #12
                        Growing up in the Tampa Bay area I was exposed to Savatage early on--what a great, highly underrated, under-the- radar band. I especially miss the Jon Oliva -on-vocals years. Too bad they've been all but forgotten by most.

                        Every Savatage fan should check out Jon Oliva's Pain. Very Savatage-esque. Several albums even include Criss Oliva guitar/song parts that were found after his death.

                        'Tage Mahal, Maniacal Renderings, Global Warning are all excellent.

                        Even Eddie Trunk on VH1 Classic's, That Metal Show, totally ignores Jon Oliva's Pain when a veiwer asks, "Whatever happened to Savatage?" He goes on and on about Trans-siberian Orchestra. JOP is WAAAY more in the Savatage vein than anything TSO has ever done. Check it out.
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                        • #13
                          I've been looking into their stuff. The only album I have of theirs is "Hall of The Mountain King". Good stuff though. I've been thinking about getting "Streets".

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Intothevoid View Post
                            I've been looking into their stuff. The only album I have of theirs is "Hall of The Mountain King". Good stuff though. I've been thinking about getting "Streets".

                            You really need to find "Ghost in the Ruins" (all live, most of their best stuff). Try E-bay. I have a play and a 2nd sealed copy. Sound quality is excellent. Really gives you an idea of Jon's voice skills and the great "sound" Chris got from his guitar.

                            It's awesome and songs you might not like as much in the studio version you'll got nuts for.

                            Intensity level is far higher for all the tracks than studio versions.

                            To bad video for it doesn't exist

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                            • #15
                              Oh yeah! I'm a huge fan of Savatage and Jon Oliva's Pain!

                              Jon is a heck of a song writer and a singer ofcourse.

                              The best ones are:
                              Hall Of The Mountain King
                              The Wake Of Magellan
                              Gutter Ballet
                              Dead Winter Dead

                              The songs became really epic once Jon stepped aside and just started writing and playing and Zak came in as the front man. He wasn't a bad singer by any means either. Damond Jiniya on the other hand wasn't that good at all, I've always thought Jon should have handled the vocals on the last tour as well....

                              But Jon's current project Jon Oliva's Pain is really good, the previous album Global Warning was awesome. Now they're writing a new album which will their first concept album. I'm looking forward on that one!

                              But back in Gutter Ballet tour the band was on their live peak! Jon was drunk probably all the time and having a lot of fun on stage and acting like a madman!

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