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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ala View Post
    Christian black metal is a contradiction in and of itself. Such a genre can't exist.
    That’s what I thought and said when I heard of Christian Black Metal, an oxymoron.
    Originally posted by DARKEST LIGHT View Post
    And I understand that. I can't even adequately explain why I got so heavily into BM. I like Death Metal far far less. Oddly the chaos and escapism (and atmosphere) is actually soothing to me when I listen to it. I thought it was ludicrous at first and I guess it still is. Do I like it because it's just so extreme? That's not my personality. To me it's just like watching a horror or occult movie. Spooky fiction I don't take seriously. Overall the audience for this stuff is small so I wouldn't be perplexed if I were you by you not liking it. It's much easier to "sing" like a BM vocalist than to sing like Ozzy or Dio. Most BM vocalists are indistinguishable from each other. Ozzy is Ozzy and you know it's Ozzy when you hear Ozzy. Same could be said of King Diamond (although I hate his voice). Yes BM is is silly stuff. An acquired taste if ever here was one. And like you I am discerning when it comes to lyrics.
    You are right and I agree with you DL, regarding the singing, It’s not my thing I guess and I just don’t get all the genre thing I love Metal and Hard Rock and that’s all the names I know, but Black Metal I know I don’t like.
    Originally posted by Kennyz View Post
    And Venom was the first band to call themselves a black metal band but they are really a trash metal band.
    VENOM METAL!!!!! Not chick Metal!!!!!
    "Without Black Sabbath there never would have been an Ozzy, and without Ozzy there never would have been a Black Sabbath"
    "If there ever was a band whose voice is so significant and distinct, that band is Black Sabbath and the voice is Ozzy Osbourne"
    ________________________________________OzzyIsDio_ (YoY)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by OzzyIsDio View Post
      Don’t hate to break it to me Ala, I’m learning new things all the time!

      I always read they were the first wave of Black Metal along with Venom who coined the term with their Black Metal album and Báthory.

      What would they be then, Mercyful Fate that is?
      As should we all be

      I would agree that Mercyful Fate helped inspire the first wave of black metal due to their lyrical themes and overall dark imagery. But the music is straight up heavy metal.
      http://struggle021hc.bandcamp.com
      http://www.facebook.com/struggle021hc
      http://pike.bandcamp.com
      http://www.facebook.com/PikeSweden
      http://www.facebook.com/DeathValleyRecords

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DARKEST LIGHT View Post
        In theory and fundamentally that is true BUT BM became a very technical style so one can play BM an sing about something other than satan, anti-Christianity, etc..

        Granted I cannot listen to a Christian BM band praising Jesus through Black metal BUT some Christian BM sing about Armageddon or angels crushing satan and his demons in war. That works. That said I still find it hard to listen to these bands. I have a few cds (Antestor, Winterdemons, A Hill To Die Upon and Hortor) but since I don't take the "evil" BM serious (it's just so damn silly when you get down to it) and am entertained by the evil fiction of it (like a spooky movie) I just don't get the same enjoyment or escapism from Christian-themed BM. I'll take Southern Black Gospel singing about Christ for that. Soulful.
        Yeah, I agree that black metal has evolved into being more a style of metal and not necessarily contingent on the lyrical themes. I mean, just look at the american bands like Wolves In The Throne Room. But christian black metal? Even if they play the style of music we label as black metal it just contradicts itself. I understand that there are bands like this, but I'll never accept it.
        http://struggle021hc.bandcamp.com
        http://www.facebook.com/struggle021hc
        http://pike.bandcamp.com
        http://www.facebook.com/PikeSweden
        http://www.facebook.com/DeathValleyRecords

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ala View Post
          Yeah, I agree that black metal has evolved into being more a style of metal and not necessarily contingent on the lyrical themes. I mean, just look at the american bands like Wolves In The Throne Room. But christian black metal? Even if they play the style of music we label as black metal it just contradicts itself. I understand that there are bands like this, but I'll never accept it.
          I really can’t accept it either, I mean it just doesn’t make sense and even if they are singing about God in a good way, the music itself just doesn’t grab me, if I can’t understand what someone is saying or sing along with it, it’s not for me.

          Thank you all for weighing in on this.
          "Without Black Sabbath there never would have been an Ozzy, and without Ozzy there never would have been a Black Sabbath"
          "If there ever was a band whose voice is so significant and distinct, that band is Black Sabbath and the voice is Ozzy Osbourne"
          ________________________________________OzzyIsDio_ (YoY)

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          • #20
            I prefer Thrash Metal. I can´t stand the so called growl singing in black and death metal.
            Last edited by Kennyz; 03-15-2019, 02:02 PM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Kennyz View Post
              I prefer Trash Metal. I can´t stand the so called growl singing in black and death metal.
              I’m with you K, I can’t stand it either, how do I know what they’re singing about if I can’t understand them.
              I’m not knocking that type of music or people who like it, it’s just not my bag.
              "Without Black Sabbath there never would have been an Ozzy, and without Ozzy there never would have been a Black Sabbath"
              "If there ever was a band whose voice is so significant and distinct, that band is Black Sabbath and the voice is Ozzy Osbourne"
              ________________________________________OzzyIsDio_ (YoY)

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Kennyz View Post
                I prefer Trash Metal. I can´t stand the so called growl singing in black and death metal.
                *Thrash Metal
                http://struggle021hc.bandcamp.com
                http://www.facebook.com/struggle021hc
                http://pike.bandcamp.com
                http://www.facebook.com/PikeSweden
                http://www.facebook.com/DeathValleyRecords

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by OzzyIsDio View Post
                  I’m with you K, I can’t stand it either, how do I know what they’re singing about if I can’t understand them.
                  I’m not knocking that type of music or people who like it, it’s just not my bag.
                  It's not my bag either.The instrumental part can be pretty good sometimes,but the growling just ruins it for me.
                  Last edited by Kennyz; 03-15-2019, 02:15 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Kennyz View Post
                    It's not my bag either.The instrumental part can be pretty good sometimes,but the growling just ruins it for me.
                    K, you’re my pal!
                    "Without Black Sabbath there never would have been an Ozzy, and without Ozzy there never would have been a Black Sabbath"
                    "If there ever was a band whose voice is so significant and distinct, that band is Black Sabbath and the voice is Ozzy Osbourne"
                    ________________________________________OzzyIsDio_ (YoY)

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