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    OMG it's incredible! Tony Martin in his prime and at his best

    It rivals with Headless in Vienna for best Martin bootleg IMO.

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    Well, the only let down on Wolver is the recording quality, IMO. But the setlist and band's performance is just brilliant.
    Can't you see what I see
    You and I victims of Their word
    As the master of power
    Try to poison our world
    ----- Eternal Idol ~ 1987

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    AMEN !!!!!!!!

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    Aye, it's a great boot, probably one of the best. It's a pity that it was a bit rough around the edges. The setlist was still being sorted out and it shows, and it's a shame they never played Valhalla (one of the best rockers Sabbath ever had).
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    Well, at least we had feels good to me ( you may bash me, but it's a WONDERFUL ballad )
    Can't you see what I see
    You and I victims of Their word
    As the master of power
    Try to poison our world
    ----- Eternal Idol ~ 1987

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    It's a nice song but I wish Anno Mundi had been the single instead.
    "There's only one Black Sabbath... I like to call him Tony Iommi" - racer

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    Originally Posted By: Rover It's a nice song but I wish Anno Mundi had been the single instead.
    You are not alone, brother..
    Can't you see what I see
    You and I victims of Their word
    As the master of power
    Try to poison our world
    ----- Eternal Idol ~ 1987

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    Originally Posted By: Ray Rules Well, the only let down on Wolver is the recording quality, IMO. But the setlist and band's performance is just brilliant.
    Agreed, though I also find the crowd noise kinda funny, especially since you can clearly hear the guy who is recording all of it. At the beginning of every song he mentions the title

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    Originally Posted By: Headless Tyr
    Originally Posted By: Ray Rules Well, the only let down on Wolver is the recording quality, IMO. But the setlist and band's performance is just brilliant.
    Agreed, though I also find the crowd noise kinda funny, especially since you can clearly hear the guy who is recording all of it. At the beginning of every song he mentions the title
    Oh, funny note! Try to get the Live At Barcelona 1983.. LOL There's this guy, recording the show, and during Paranoid, somebody try to emulate Ian's high screams.. LOL And the guy who is recording ask him to shut the fuck up!
    Can't you see what I see
    You and I victims of Their word
    As the master of power
    Try to poison our world
    ----- Eternal Idol ~ 1987

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    Originally Posted By: Ray Rules
    Originally Posted By: Headless Tyr
    Originally Posted By: Ray Rules Well, the only let down on Wolver is the recording quality, IMO. But the setlist and band's performance is just brilliant.
    Agreed, though I also find the crowd noise kinda funny, especially since you can clearly hear the guy who is recording all of it. At the beginning of every song he mentions the title
    Oh, funny note! Try to get the Live At Barcelona 1983.. LOL There's this guy, recording the show, and during Paranoid, somebody try to emulate Ian's high screams.. LOL And the guy who is recording ask him to shut the fuck up!
    LOL That sounds like a good laugh

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    Wolverhampton has the best setlist ever, and that's make this boot the best, despite of the sound.

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    This is without a doubt the best Black Sabbath Bootleg IMO. The Setlist is amazing and the Band was especially on fire. Hopefully one day someone cleans up the Sound or even better maybe an Official release which I doubt would happen but hey anything is possible!

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    Originally Posted By: Guillesab Wolverhampton has the best setlist ever, and that's make this boot the best, despite of the sound.
    What's the setlist?
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    Here's (a rather elaborate) setlist for the show:

    01. Ave Satani
    02. The Gates of Hell
    03. Anno Mundi
    04. Neon Knights
    05. Headless Cross
    06. When Death Calls
    --Nicholls keyboard intro
    --When Death Calls
    07. War Pigs
    08. The Shining
    09. Neil Murray solo
    10. Heart Like A Wheel (portion)
    11. Tony Iommi solo
    --Iommi guitar solo
    --Electric Funeral (tease)
    --Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (tease)
    12. The Law Maker
    13. The Battle of Tyr
    14. Sabbath Stones
    15. Cozy Powell solo
    --The Planets
    --Mars, the Bringer of War
    16. The Sign of the Southern Cross (portion)
    17. Feels Good to Me
    18. Iron Man
    19. Children of the Grave
    ENCORE 1:
    20. Black Sabbath
    --thunder & bells intro
    --Iommi guitar intro
    --Black Sabbath
    21. Die Young
    --Iommi guitar intro
    --Die Young
    ENCORE 2:
    22. Heaven and Hell
    --Heaven and Hell
    --jam & introductions
    --Heaven and Hell (ending)
    23. Paranoid
    --Iommi guitar intro
    --Paranoid
    --Heaven and Hell (reprise)

    And I must concur, it is without a doubt the best setlist Sabbath ever had with Martin. The performances are superb all around and the quality of the recording is exceptional aswell.

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    You forgot Odin's Court. They played that one between Cozy Powell's solo and The Sign of the Southern Cross. This was I think the only time they played this one (as well as Feels Good to Me) and why Valhalla wasn't played is beyond human reasoning.
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    Originally Posted By: Relic Here's (a rather elaborate) setlist for the show:

    01. Ave Satani
    02. The Gates of Hell
    03. Anno Mundi
    04. Neon Knights
    05. Headless Cross
    06. When Death Calls
    --Nicholls keyboard intro
    --When Death Calls
    07. War Pigs
    08. The Shining
    09. Neil Murray solo
    10. Heart Like A Wheel (portion)
    11. Tony Iommi solo
    --Iommi guitar solo
    --Electric Funeral (tease)
    --Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (tease)
    12. The Law Maker
    13. The Battle of Tyr
    14. Sabbath Stones
    15. Cozy Powell solo
    --The Planets
    --Mars, the Bringer of War
    16. The Sign of the Southern Cross (portion)
    17. Feels Good to Me
    18. Iron Man
    19. Children of the Grave
    ENCORE 1:
    20. Black Sabbath
    --thunder & bells intro
    --Iommi guitar intro
    --Black Sabbath
    21. Die Young
    --Iommi guitar intro
    --Die Young
    ENCORE 2:
    22. Heaven and Hell
    --Heaven and Hell
    --jam & introductions
    --Heaven and Hell (ending)
    23. Paranoid
    --Iommi guitar intro
    --Paranoid
    --Heaven and Hell (reprise)

    And I must concur, it is without a doubt the best setlist Sabbath ever had with Martin. The performances are superb all around and the quality of the recording is exceptional aswell.
    Thank you!
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    Default Re: The Wolverhampton bootleg

    Originally Posted By: Relic Here's (a rather elaborate) setlist for the show:

    01. Ave Satani
    02. The Gates of Hell
    03. Anno Mundi
    04. Neon Knights
    05. Headless Cross
    06. When Death Calls
    --Nicholls keyboard intro
    --When Death Calls
    07. War Pigs
    08. The Shining
    09. Neil Murray solo
    10. Heart Like A Wheel (portion)
    11. Tony Iommi solo
    --Iommi guitar solo
    --Electric Funeral (tease)
    --Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (tease)
    12. The Law Maker
    13. The Battle of Tyr
    14. Sabbath Stones
    15. Cozy Powell solo
    --The Planets
    --Mars, the Bringer of War
    16. The Sign of the Southern Cross (portion)
    17. Feels Good to Me
    18. Iron Man
    19. Children of the Grave
    ENCORE 1:
    20. Black Sabbath
    --thunder & bells intro
    --Iommi guitar intro
    --Black Sabbath
    21. Die Young
    --Iommi guitar intro
    --Die Young
    ENCORE 2:
    22. Heaven and Hell
    --Heaven and Hell
    --jam & introductions
    --Heaven and Hell (ending)
    23. Paranoid
    --Iommi guitar intro
    --Paranoid
    --Heaven and Hell (reprise)

    And I must concur, it is without a doubt the best setlist Sabbath ever had with Martin.
    Here's one that stacks up to that, I think...

    Intro
    Time Machine
    Children of the Grave
    Children of the Sea
    I Witness
    Mob Rules
    Into the Void
    Psychophobia
    Black Sabbath
    Neon Knights
    Immaculate Deception
    The Wizard
    Cross of Thorns
    Symptom of the Universe
    Headless Cross
    Paranoid

    From February 8th, 1994. The Martin era of the band featured some of the most varied setlists in the band's history, imho. Resurrecting songs like "The Wizard", "The Sign of the Southern Cross" in Wolverhamptom, "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath", and so forth was sheer genius.

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    Yeah, but I think that in 1991 Martin was at his peak with Sabbath (and the band was at his peak with that line-up, playing together for a while and with a great record like Tyr) february 8th in The Sting is amazing, and so does February 11th in Boston, but Martin's voice was not as good in Cross Purposes tour as it were in Tyr tour, in my opinion.

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    If it's not too much of a pain, does anyone have a link to download this bootleg? I've been searching around a bit for the past 45 minutes and I only keep finding sites that have a list of bootlegs with no downloads.

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    Check your PM's

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    I'd love to have the link as well.

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    This is an awesome show! I must have listened to it like 100 times!!!!

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    Originally Posted By: Guillesab Yeah, but I think that in 1991 Martin was at his peak with Sabbath (and the band was at his peak with that line-up, playing together for a while and with a great record like Tyr) february 8th in The Sting is amazing, and so does February 11th in Boston, but Martin's voice was not as good in Cross Purposes tour as it were in Tyr tour, in my opinion.
    After some reflection, I can't help but agree with you about Martin's voice. It is much better on the Tyr tour than what it was on the Cross Purposes tour. However, I would still contend that the band was playing at a higher level on the CP tour. Just a personal preference. Thanks for your insight though, it was worthwhile and made me rethink things slightly.

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    Yeah, it's all about personal preferences. CP tour had Geezer (all tour) and Bill (3 shows, I guess) the original rhythm section, so the old songs sounded great. Geezer was playing really good (well, he always does...)
    Tyr tour had the Murray-Powell rhythm section, amazing and powerful.

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    Originally Posted By: Guillesab Yeah, it's all about personal preferences. CP tour had Geezer (all tour) and Bill (3 shows, I guess) the original rhythm section, so the old songs sounded great. Geezer was playing really good (well, he always does...)
    Tyr tour had the Murray-Powell rhythm section, amazing and powerful.
    I'm receiving by mail a pack which contain a Bill Ward interview saying he left Sabbath in 93 because he felt TM was horrible and couldn't sing the old materials. That really bothered me, since Bill Ward himself said he couldn't play his own songs.
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    aww...
    Its sad but I think you should upload it here
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    How Good It Feels
    Sleeping here with you tonight
    And thatís for real"
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    Originally Posted By: Ray Rules
    I'm receiving by mail a pack which contain a Bill Ward interview saying he left Sabbath in 93 because he felt TM was horrible and couldn't sing the old materials. That really bothered me, since Bill Ward himself said he couldn't play his own songs.
    He didn't hold himself exempt from criticism, so why should it bother you? I admire his honesty on the subject - how he felt about Martin's singing and his admission of his own failings.

    Personally, I think Tony did a much better job on the Dio material, and sang the Ozzy era material better than Dio ever did.

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