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    Quote Originally Posted by Icy Sun View Post
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes The Illusion of Power. Most people seem to hate it.
    I think some people focus too much on the Ice-T/Ernie C involvement just because they're hip-hop/hardcore people as opposed to your typical heavy metal people.

    Fuck man, it's not like they got Iommi to wear a cap on backwards.

    Face it - I don't think there's any gangsta rappa game enough to try that...

    I didn't mind Body Count - underneath all the gangsta rap lyrics and macho posturing, there's some good riffs buried in the mix - and Ice-T is a lot smarter than his typical lyrics suggested.

    Besides, Ice has used Black Sabbath's music on his own stuff - Shut Up Be Happy, for instance, uses the intro to Black Sabbath and it works quite well.


    Apart from that - the riff is classic Sabbath - slow, doom laden and heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightskald View Post
    I think some people focus too much on the Ice-T/Ernie C involvement just because they're hip-hop/hardcore people as opposed to your typical heavy metal people.
    I don't mind the rap passage in "Illusion of Power". I even find it quite fits the overall song. But Ernie C's production is mainly what kills this album for me. There are great songs on "Forbidden", but damn the sound is awful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I don't mind the rap passage in "Illusion of Power". I even find it quite fits the overall song. But Ernie C's production is mainly what kills this album for me. There are great songs on "Forbidden", but damn the sound is awful
    Totally agree - for me it's not that I object to Ernie C's involvement, I'm all for innovation and change if it brings something fresh... but he just got such crap results. Forbidden is the flattest album in the entire catalogue, IMO the worst production on a Sabs album by far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I don't mind the rap passage in "Illusion of Power". I even find it quite fits the overall song. But Ernie C's production is mainly what kills this album for me. There are great songs on "Forbidden", but damn the sound is awful
    I'm not sure if I agree the production is the whole source of the problem. Sure Forbidden sounds a bit like a glorified demo, but to me that's just as much because the songs themselves sound a bit like they could have done with some more work.

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    I think Eternal Idol was the best one and hard to chose a fav. although I'd have to go with Born to Lose.
    As far as Headless Cross is concerned.I absolutly hate this album. It does nothing for me personally.
    TYR: this is also a great album second to EI. I have to chose Jerusalem.
    Cross Purposes overall is a good album, I go with Psychophobia
    And Forbidden...I like Rusty Angels. Illusion of Power is good too, I never understood the negitvity that ppl have for it.

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    Eternal Idol - The Shining
    Headless Cross - Black Moon
    Tyr - Valhalla (this was toughest pick, as I like the entire album alot, and about the same)
    Cross Purposes - I Witness
    Forbidden - Can't Get Close Enough (second toughest pick)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho Man View Post
    mine...
    The Shining (The Eternal Idol a close second)
    Nightwing/Headless Cross
    Jerusalem (Heaven In Black a close second)
    I Witness (Cross Of Thorns a close second)
    Kiss Of Death
    Pretty close to what I'd pick, but "Heaven In Black" & "Rusty Angels" are fave's of mine.

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    The shining, headless cross, jerusalem, feels good to me and psychophobia.
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    lost forever
    headless cross
    the sabbath stones
    psychophobia
    guilty as hell

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    Default Fav. song from each Tony Martin Sabbath albums

    The Eternal Idol-The Shining
    Headless Cross-Headless Cross
    TYR-Valhalla
    Cross Purposes-I Witness
    Forbidden-Can't Get Close Enough

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    Eternal Idol - Nightmare
    Headless Cross - Nightwing
    Tyr - Odin's court/Valhalla
    Cross Purposes - Immaculate Deception
    Forbidden - Kiss Of Death

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