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    Default Now that you listened to it - what would you have called 13?

    OK Sabbath Nation, put your thinking caps on. Now that you have listened to the new album, what would you have called it? The Sabs are not the greatest at originality when it comes to giving albums names. Many were named after songs. Volume 4 and 13 have a lot in common (not much originality). My favorites names are Master Of Reality and Sabotage. Give me your best shot. Maybe you think 13 is perfect... What do you think the next one should be? Let’s just hope Bill Ward will contribute on it.

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    I actually love the title 13. IT FITS!! But I understand that it has been done several times in the past. I like the simple to the point title.

    with RJD Sabbath is all about devils and demons. 13 is more about dark and spooky. The album title and cover are great!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangemaster View Post
    The Sabs are not the greatest at originality when it comes to giving albums names. Many were named after songs. Volume 4 and 13 have a lot in common (not much originality).
    Vol 4. was the record-company. Sab wanted to call it Snowblind, but the rec-comp couldn't handle the coke-reference. Same with Paranoid, which was supposed to be named War Pigs. The Rec's couldn't handle the Vietnam-connection, plus Paranoid was to be the "hit".
    But i agree that MOR and Sabotage were (their own) great titles, esp. the last, given the situation they were in at the time...

    As for 13, i can't say the title bother me at all, but if i were to choose from the song-titles, Age Of Reason would be great. Sabbath's finally back after 35 years, there's finally some sence and reason in the world again.

    The next one? "The Grand Return Of Mr. William Thomas Ward", maybe?
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    I dont mind 13 but it wouldnt have been first choice for me, Age of Reason or Damaged Souls would have been far better
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    "13" is a fairly weak title, but the album is great. I would have called it Judgement Day, Tribulation, or Ascendance From Hell......or something like that.
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    I would go with the title of one of tracks myself, I think Age of Reason would have been a good one, if not a track title then a play on words of their name a la Sabotage.
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    End Of The Beginning.
    "Without Black Sabbath there never would have been an Ozzy, and without Ozzy there never would have been a Black Sabbath"
    "If there ever was a band whose voice is so significant and distinct, that band is Black Sabbath and the voice is Ozzy Osbourne"
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    I would have called it "11".

    I believe my earliest suggestion for this album last year was "The Evil Behind The Evil Of Evil's Evil Deeds Of Evil" or something, don't quite remember that right.
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    Great question. "13" is too evident and easy. They needed something much cooler, imo. Geezer should have come up with a title. (The guy's fantastic with lyrics.) Maybe they should have come up with something cryptic, symbolic or mythical. Maybe "War, Peace and Death". (Since war's are currently happening.) "Dying is Easy, Living is Hard", "Last Breath", "Dying to Live", "A New Day", "Beneath the Mortal", "Believe it's True", "Believe Another Day".

    (I have no idea how VH came up with the title "A Different Kind of Truth". I don't see any kind of connection to the music or the band members. But I do wonder if the train is a phallic symbol or not.)
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    Well...13 is a weak title, especially since the meaning doesn't really come clear in any of the songs either...if there would have been a song about lets say bad luck for instance, it would have been different.

    None of the song titles are really good album titles either...but Beginning Of The End might have been a sinister enough of a title...and fitting as well.

    But the best album titles are always something that just kind of mirror the themes of the album or themes of some of the songs....

    But they could have done worse I suppose...they could have named the album God Is Dead!!!!

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    How about "Never Say Die AGAIN!!!
    "Without Black Sabbath there never would have been an Ozzy, and without Ozzy there never would have been a Black Sabbath"
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    The relief.

    Or age of reason would've been good!
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    "From the Grave!" lol. Naa, that would be cool if that comes out after the band has passed & we still don't have all those unreleased songs. That'd be dope!! Black Sabbath: From The Grave! haha.
    As Far as 13. Hmm, I guess its a cool title, fits with the band mythos. Age Of Reason sounds too evolved for a Sabbath album title to me although as a song its beyond epic! Can't think of anything better, maybe why the band settled on it!

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    Suggestions (each more cheesy than the last):

    "Three Out of Four Ain't Bad"
    "Black is Back"
    "Sabbathy Songs For Sabbathy People"
    "Yeah, You Heard Right"
    "An Album From The Inventors Of Heavy Metal"
    "Scary Music!"
    "All The Way From Birmingham, England"
    "What The Hell (Did He Say?)"
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzzyIsDio View Post
    How about "Never Say Die AGAIN!!!
    Ha, you beat me to it!

    How about "Hardly Ever Say Die"...?

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    I don't mind "13" that much anymore since the cover art turned out to be awesome imo. "Age of Reason" would have been a great title though, along with "God Is Dead?" and "End of the Beginning". Actually "Age of Reason" would work best, since it clearly connects with most of the themes on the album, the current state of our world, our "age" so to speak. But yeah, "13" is a good title.
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    13 is the perfect name for this album. I can't think of a better name. The hit the nail on the head. Music was good, lenght was great and the name was perfect.

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    Heaven In Black

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    14 as in 1/4 of the band is missing

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesline View Post
    14 as in 1/4 of the band is missing
    Yawn. Bill is missed yes

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    Second Coming

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    Volume 9.....
    Casting his shadow, weaving his spell, funny clothes, tinkling bell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Now in Darkness View Post
    Volume 9.....
    Good one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul Sucker View Post
    Second Coming
    Second Coming, interesting. The long ones are best. When you think the song is over, it reaches it's climax the tempo changes, and then another climax, and when you think it's finally over it comes again, and again. I feel worn out after hearing EOB, GID, AOR, and Dear Father.

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    Maybe... End of the Beginning?
    Do you hear the thunder raging in the sky?
    Premonition of a shattered world that’s gonna die.
    In the age of reason, how do we survive?
    The protocols of evil ravaging so many lives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice_9 View Post
    (I have no idea how VH came up with the title "A Different Kind of Truth". I don't see any kind of connection to the music or the band members. But I do wonder if the train is a phallic symbol or not.)
    It's based on a lyric from 'Bullethead'.

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    Risen from the Dead

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    13 is a good name.

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    Great idea's! I know Tony had a contest back when he had his Iommi release - look what that ended up being! After giving it some thought my vote goes for Bloody Hell. Tony uses this phrase quite s few times in his interviews through the years. I would say it fits because of the turmoil the guys went through getting this album started and also all the problems the band members have survived (cancer, ozzy fire, bill ward...). I also like the demonic reference. Just sayin...

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    Just taking a lyric from one of the songs on the album that I think would have made a good title is :

    Hypodermic Pistol



    EDIT: I think "Bombers Moon" might have been another good title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiloDeltaCharlie View Post
    Just taking a lyric from one of the songs on the album that I think would have made a good title is :

    Hypodermic Pistol
    I think that's a great line, and a great phrase (Happiness is a warm gun, bang, bang, shoot, shoot.?.?.?.?), but i think it sound a bit too moronic to be an album-title...
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    I would've called it "7" because I like that number better than 13.
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    13 is clever though. 1 is gone, 3 remain. It's just as clever as "The Devil You Know".

    I like the term Satanic Blues that they were throwing around. I'd use that, but I'd tone down the world Satanic to something more palatable (and Wal-Mart friendly) like Wicked or Diabolical.
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    How about "Scary Blues"?
    In the fields the bodies burning, as the war machine keeps turning.

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    Zeitgeist

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    To Hell and Back
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    Quote Originally Posted by WallOfSleep View Post
    How about "Scary Blues"?
    Or, just to not step on any toes, how about "Slightly Unsettling Folk Music"?

    But in all seriousness I really like this idea:

    Quote Originally Posted by KiloDeltaCharlie
    Just taking a lyric from one of the songs on the album that I think would have made a good title is
    Perhaps "Sustainable Extinction"? But I also really like "Bomber's Moon"

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    Deep Purple in Rock,

    Black Sabbath... in Hell!
    Do you hear the thunder raging in the sky?
    Premonition of a shattered world that’s gonna die.
    In the age of reason, how do we survive?
    The protocols of evil ravaging so many lives?

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    "Shit Sandwich"

    or "End Of The Beginning"

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